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Here's 4 of mine, and while beauty is of course subjective, I love the look of them, they are playable art to me, the woods used and sheer quality of work are simply stunning, they all play unbelievably well with low action and comfortable necks, and they are absolutely not for everyone, but most people who can't get their head round them, who have played them, understand instantly after 5 minutes of playing! For me, they're perfect, for you maybe not. For each their own lest us all be assigned a number and wear only beige!

I think it's cool. Tbh every instrument I try, I use like a bass player. Being a bassist isn't about what you play, it's how you think as a musician. Or don't think

Lee from Ashdown has just been in contact and informs me that there's a spanking new driver on it's way to me gratis! He also pointed out that I should never have been asked to pay for one in the first place and would never have happened if he had been aware of the situation. The man is a gent and I wish I'd dealt with him from the beginning. My faith in Ashdown has been restored! Thanks everyone!

Thanks all for your thoughts on this. I'm going with the glass half full view on it. I love it, plays like a dream and looks awesome. And I've got the cover note from Fender if I decide to sell in the future.

Erm... I dont buy this at all. You're implying that users of Squier or Fender-type basses are all cloth-eared root and fifth plodders. You can be subtle and inventive on any bass - you don't need a seven-string ironing board to be nuanced and intricate. That is entirely down to the player. IMHO, etc.

After many years without "the one I shouldn't have let go", I've managed to get it back. I sold it to the previous/now owner, probably 8 years ago and I've missed it ever since. I asked him 2 years ago if he would let it go, but no joy, that and I didn't have the right cash. By chance I messaged him, and he's looking to sell it.. Great timing or what.! Its a stunning instrument, with THAT Sei loveliness, and the great U Retro. Easily the best bass I've ever played. Thanks Steve. My excitement has got the better of me. After an 8 year wait, and a 6 hour drive, she's back. Nothing wrong with a Sire that I just sold but playing this, is just a totally different experience. Its just sublime. As I remember, its soooo light for a swamp ash 5 string. On my digital scales its 8.1 pounds. Adjustable string spacing from 19mm to 17.5 on the ABM bridge. I found out, It was made in the early 2000's, Has an Olive Wood top, Brazilian Rosewood fingerboard, Birdseye maple neck. 2 piece american swamp ash body, single coil Bartolini 59j's, East U retro ( I think). Im sure Molan and Gwillym can remember this bass.

Sorry but I simply don't believe this - are you sure it was the basses? (I'll accept the lack of cloth ears - though I've played with plenty of half deaf guitarists and drummers in my time so I'm not but sure why bassists are exempt - even CLF himself was half deaf i understand). Ah well - when we're all playing Squiers in a few years....... no doubt that's all that'll be left in production or worthy of playing when this viewpoint extends everywhere. Reminds me of the days we all drove Moskovitch and Trabants - because the powers that be thought they were perfectly adequate to get from A to B and everything else was an extravagant, decadent irrelevance - we're just showing off in our unnecessary Audis and Mercedes these days - after all who needs aircon, ABS etc etc - it's all irrelevant 😂😂

Maybe he tried to sell it as a bass ?

Hy guys ! Here is my baby!

You could say the same for certain players and their use of a 4 string bass! It is a bass, it operates on the same principles in every fashion, just with a few more strings. Same build techniques, scales, spacings, pre-amps, strings (with a few more either side), tunings etc. ERBs have far more in common with a standard bass than they do any other instrument as they are basses! It's like saying an 64 key keyboard isn't the same instrument as an 88 key keyboard... they are both keyboards, one just has more range.

That's probably racist, or something...

Be careful posting stuff like this in case someone knows a drummer with a kit like that, and gets offended on behalf of someone else

To be fair, he’s put himself out there, so he should probably expect a bit of joshing as well as the good stuff.

I played this to death, back then. Excellent stuff. (I left decades ago ...)

Very true, they're both fairly heavy. Maybe buy a nice wide strap and keep the Wal?

But the difference is he'd thrash you even more comprehensively on a Ducati because it's a lot better at going fast and almost everything else. How well would your Squier take bowing - orchestral music for instance. Or rockabilly upright style? This thread is in general so per se must apply to upright bass as well. I don't think I'd be playing a Squier on Beethoen's 5th!! 'Coffee table' basses aren't bedroom basses - they're mostly used by very experienced players where tone, articulation and nuance required are way beyond the thump along rock or to quote another thread once on this forum - boring plodding. Bass guitar - indeed music - is often about nuances and intricacies - this thread simply proves to me that many bass guitar players on this forum don't either get that or don't play in a style that uses them or needs them - that's fine but don't use that to judge what other people should do - they can take a lot of forms - if you can't hear them (or the guitar does not allow you to play them) then there's no differentiation from one style to the next and the bass guitar becomes no different from one thing to the next. That devalues most of the subtleties which can be used by skilled and inventive players.

Stew, this is only because I'd run in that Midget so well for you ...

Good post. I recently had a similar experience and with Mark bass head too only I, hooked it up to a battered £40 Laney Richter cab and it's probably the nicest sound I've had. I've used Eden, Genz Benz, Mark bass and Trace and although maybe my taste has changed, I love this current set up. Problem is, a couple of years ago I changed to all lightweight gear and now it's all just sitting there in the studio.

I think the expression is "Ernie ballsack"?

I agree, I understand the temperamental creative type but such skittishness surely could be addressed by a cheeky uppercut?

I'm very familiar with those stairs, as i believe, you are

Pulled the trigger on the BEAM. Lets hope it turns up!

Agreed, but Basschat's all about the pointing and the laughing isn't it ?

@blue I did like my rb1001rb, it was very clear and bloody loud!! Like you say, it had headroom for days especially at 4 ohms. My only gripe was that it was difficult to get what I would call a “warm sound” but that may just be my paying style. When I switched to the fusion 550, it opened up the option of that warm vintage sound I was looking for plus still had the ability to do the GK sound. If you get the chance, give one a try. Plus I enjoy watching the motorised Knobs move 😂

Why? Why should fun be made of someone on-line because of his instrument of choice? Sorry but I don't see it.

As long as it's fretless

People can play what they want; indeed they do. He says he really wanted an instrument that was going to challenge him. Fair enough, because that is exactly why I play four strings.

I think it's pretty damn cool. Not that I would want one, but the fact that he can play it and it serves his purpose. Its always good to see something out of the ordinary.

Maybe what some of you consider a tribute band should change its name to No.

Wow....I see what you mean. Great finishing jobs!

I can heartily recommend the Italia Leathers 4” ones!

My current amp is a Trace 300W 7215 Series Six combo (1993). Yes it's heavy, but it sounds totally amazing and it's punchy as fook. I'M GOING BACK IN TIME!! WOOOO!* *Cue creepy theremin music with lots of reverb. Woo!

You could always get an ABY box with gain for each input to put in front.

Is it maybe that not everybody holds your world view of what a band line up should be. I personally am quite relaxed about an evolving line up in any band and there have been a few global bands that have done just this. If this is a red line for you that is fine, but it's not for some of us. For what it's worth I completely agree that BB was/is a far better drummer than AW, but I've only seen BB once with Yes and AW mulitple times so I associate him with the "classic" line up. What I choose to spend my hard-earned on is my decision, and if you believe I've been overcharged that's fine too, your choice not to go.

Our very own eude put me onto Lee at Ashdown and he emailed me back with a very positive response. He is going to contact me again in the morning. Thanks everyone, I'll let you know what happens.

Yes, but we did that one last week!

Anyone that says no is talking poop.

They make P and J fretless versions

My approach has always been, neither a borrower or lender be, in music terms at least. Far too many potential arguments and irritations involved in even lending cheap gear. I always make that known right from the start of any musical endevour and then it's easy. Only exception is that people can use my cabs if i'm headlining, though I make that clear that as soon as my stuff is getting abused, the electric goes off and they find someone else's. Sounds intolerant maybe, but It's always the people that feel they don't have to be responsible for their own stuff that care the least about other peoples. I realise that's not you position exactly, but if you're lending to friends it can be even more awkward. Maybe an unpoplular opinion here, but my vote would be to say "sorry but It's a policy to never lend or borrow anything".

Personally, I think the major difference is the feel over any tonal differences. As a rule of thumb, 40-100 hexcore strings are similar in tension to 45-105 roundcore strings.

As you lot haven't bought one, I'll have to take one for the team. The rack units won't land for another 4 or 5 weeks, but one has my name on it.