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  2. subaudio

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    The other factor is that all these recent auditions were for imminent gigs. Like two 45 minute sets in ten days time. How can they expect to give me songs to learn, in short notice, that aren't the songs they've given me to learn? They also CBA to even record a rehearsal and give me that to learn. I could work with that but a total random version with no structure and no copy is impossible. Even free jazz has structure.
  3. I got round this by turning my back on the audience. I have no idea how this went down because [revisit first sentence]
  4. BreadBin

    Bass for REAL bass players! 😁

    Tuners are at the bridge end
  5. arthurhenry

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    Neither could the audience or venue owners who booked them.
  6. arthurhenry

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    This is one of the inherent difficulties of the cover band world. There are excellent musicians, some of whom are pros who also work with well known artists, serious, practising players, average, non committal types and appallingly bad pretenders. They all play the same gigs and some of them are even in the same bands together. No one in the audience cares and venue owners who book the bands don't care.
  7. Angelus

    FS - TC Electronic Polytune

    Did it sell?
  8. kevvo66

    Good Grunge Bass

    Hear,hear .Guitar wombler of 80s doing a 20 minute solo who had more make up on than a beautician and bigger hair ,oh deary me,wombler what a wombler do they collect rubbish lmfao🤣
  9. subaudio

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    Exactly this apart from I don't hate bands, I love them, I just want to be in a good one.
  10. Roger2611

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    I've had to learn Separate Ways by Journey for one of the current bands I am with, it was not a song I knew so I did a bit of hunting on Youtube and found a guy who really played it correctly so learnt that version, at the first proper rehearsal we kicked into it and it sounded terrible, the band had been playing some weird quasi version based around the previous bass player playing the same chords as the guitar, I have got them to learn it properly now and it sounds far better for it!
  11. SH73

    Bass for REAL bass players! 😁

    Does it come with a ladder to tune it up?
  12. skankdelvar

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    In the days when I still auditioned for covers bands I'd ask for the set list, the keys, which versions of songs (if applicable). I'd get the details, learn the songs, turn up and encounter exactly what the OP describes. So I started asking people in advance whether they did the songs as per the original arrangements or not. If 'as original', I'd learn the songs. If not, I'd tip up and busk the audition. The only problem was they'd all tell me they played the original versions when - in fact - they didn't. Because these people literally could not perceive any difference between the original and the half-arrsed racket they played. It wasn't that they'd deliberately rearranged the songs - they'd just never bothered to sit and listen to the songs from beginning to end, or to make notes and agree a structure and stick to it. This - along with the usual vortex of lies, madness and egotism - is why I f**king hate amateur bands.
  13. dave_bass5

    Becos CompIQ. Anyone seen this?

    Anyone have any thoughts about this little comp? Pretty sure it wont be liked by those who need full control over everything, but it appeals to me as its quite simple, but with a bit more real time control compared to my Spectracomp. Also Has a dedicated blend knob on the side. https://becosfx.com/product/compiq-mini-pro-compressor-pedal-for-guitar-bass/
  14. Happy Jack

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    My experience of this is playing in an Americana outfit originally formed by a ukelele-playing music-in-the-community merchant. She was very enthusiastic and did a lot of good, but she was a very limited musician and either couldn't or CBA to learn the songs properly. Over a couple of years the band attracted some much better musicians because the song choices were a lot of fun, but each as they joined pretty much 'dumbed down' to her level. Finally their long-term bassist left and I was recruited, and I don't do dumbing down. If it's a 5-chord song then I play five chords ... I don't leave out the funny ones in the bridge because someone hasn't learned those chords on a uke. It didn't end well. She got her boyfriend (guitar & banjo) to sack me, which he did very apologetically, then it turned out the rest of the band didn't know until it was too late and within a month both she and her boyfriend were out of the band and they had split up too. I should stress that there are no villains in this piece. She wasn't evil, her boyfriend wasn't a silly billy, and I probably didn't help matters. But stinky poo happens.
  15. dmccombe7

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    I couldn't play in a band that doesn't learn the song properly or as near as possible. At the very least they should know the structure. I'll accept small insignificant things that really aren't noticed in the big scheme of things and i include myself in that. In some bands i've adapted the bassline to suit what i feel is right in a live band. I can get away with playing more or with more aggression than the original recording. A lot depends on the band i'm playing with. If they want the exact note for note version then that's what they get. I def like a little freedom tho and my current band allows me to do that. I can't play with guys that turn up at a rehearsal and try to ad-lib or wing it thru the songs especialy when i've spent hours learning the bass line spot on. I find guitarists are the worst for that IME Dave
  16. subaudio

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    I see what your saying. I like improv, I'm all for it but does House Of The Rising Sun have to be twenty minutes long with several extended solos? It's a matter of taste and lots of songs just don't work without the correct orchestration.
  17. Christine

    Tina Weymouth BBC bass programme in Jan

    I enjoyed it but not as much as the Stuart Copeland show. I didn't get any real feel last night for the real importance of the bass' part in the rhythm section that was well put over last week with the drums. It however did reinforce what a bad player I really am 😟
  18. subaudio

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    I just posted on that before seeing ypur post I totally agree!
  19. Paul S

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    It is a constant trickle of irritation in my little band. Drummer and I take pains to get note/beat perfect if practicable or necessary (although not always). Guitarist (who else?) is an exceptionally capable and talented player but always tries to shoehorn in 'doing our own version' because I believe his memory is failing - he prefers to busk things. Sometimes, as a result, we end up doing some very good alternative versions but, sometimes, it all sounds much the same. One tune in particular irritates the tits off me - no idea why particularly - we do Roachford's 'Cuddly Toy'. He insists on playing over the breakdown where there should be no guitar. Kills the song stone dead by taking away the light and shade. There, unloaded that, feels much better [/rant]
  20. mikel

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    Are there version with "Extended improv parts" not a version of being "Creative" in their own way?
  21. Frank Blank

    Sony NEX 6 + Variety of Lenses

    Clearing out all my cameras as I have settled with a small compact, so I have for sale... Sony NEX 6 (2013) (S/H around £180, new was £579.99) with Sony SEL16F28 E Mount - APS-C 16mm F2.8 Prime Lens (rrp £179.00) and leather carry case, charging cable and spare batteries. Sony SELP1650 E Mount - APS-C 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 Zoom Lens (rrp £229.00) with case and Hoya lens protector and lens cap. Sigma 19mm f/2.8 DN SE Fit Lens (rrp £159.00) with case, Sigma lens protector and lens cap. Sony SEL35F18 E Mount APS-C 35 mm F1.8 Prime Lens (rrp £327.99) with bag, Hoya lens protector and lens cap. Sony Fish Eye Converter VCL-ECF1 Lens with lens cap and case - Sony Ultra Wide Convertor VCL-ECU1 Lens with lens cap and case. ...well over a grands worth of kit here, happy to let it go to a fellow BCer, collection, post or happy to meet and deliver.
  22. subaudio

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    I think one of the factors is the internet. Folk go to sites that have a basic chord chart and lyrics and use that, they never study the actual song and it's parts. They just CBA....
  23. Monkey Steve

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    Also, online tabs have a lot to answer for. Especially guitar tabs
  24. FDC484950

    Ken Smith and the 6 String Basses

    I had a Smith BSR Elite G once; stunning instrument and the most even sounding and playable bass I’ve owned. It could do old schoole Fender tones, right up to modern and the preamp was great. Sadly they’re as rare as hen’s teeth in the UK. If I ever find a fiver in the Uk I’d snap it up. There’s a factory tour video on his site I believe; very interesting. Edit: there is one in Bass Direct... but although lovely, not at £5,250! 😮
  25. subaudio

    Bands that wont learn covers properly.

    I have no issue with being creative with versions, I'm quite into it as I stopped doing covers in my early twenties and switched to original bands. What I'm experiencing isn't that, it's a lack of willingness to do any work. Laziness basically.
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