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Mel B from the Spice Girls. Her rap in "If you wanna be my lover" was top banana.

The point is, the tone between a modeller and the real amp has become indistinguishable... especially at gig volumes. Bass through headphones sucks? Are you serious...? It all depends upon the quality of the headphones/IEMs that you are using. Lets have a look at some of the facts here... modern IEMs can go down to 10hz (that's actually lower than you can hear) - and will certainly go lower than the PA systems that are being used when you have gone to watch live bands. The speakers in IEMs are literally a couple of cm away from your ear drum and at that distance are capable of putting out far higher SPL at your ear drum than you could ever imagine compared to the the PA stack. If you want to hear bass, there is no better way. Eleven Rack. Get it sold. Awful stuff. You say that you have sold the Line 6 stuff... was there a Helix in there? Valve amps. Sound better? Historically, absolutely. Now? No difference. I like valve stuff as much as the next guy... but you are kidding yourself if you think that modern technology can't churn out the same tones. Remember, there was as many crap valve amps made as good... and lets not talk about the reliability issues associated with valve amps. And carting them around. And having them sound different in every venue... etc... Here's the thing... when you go to a gig, you aren't actually hearing the raw amp... or speaker... what you are hearing has gone through a mic, through a preamp, through a desk... with infinitely more processing than you could ever hope to have an equivalent of on a traditional amp - before going through the PA amp (probably class D - you know, those things with zero heft) before going out to the front of house. The modeller simply removes the variables - the amp, speaker, environment and mic and gives your the same tone, night in night out without compromise. If you want hard hitting - my PA, I guarantee, will put out more than any bass rig on BC. If you must have the feeling of air, then get a fan... or get a kinetic feedback board, or a subpac... or a woojer... If you want to go deaf, continue as you are and when you got that tinnitus that won't let you sleep at night, ask yourself how much of a happy place your brain is in now. I don't know sh**? Yup. Completely clueless, me.

Well there's more nonsense in the thread now

A long time ago I was introduced to another bass player at a party and we got talking all things bass. We had similar interests in music and he invited me round for a bass jam some time . On arrival there was a very nice Wal sitting there . It had an ebony fingerboard but the fret markers on the side were where they would be if it were fretless. An easy fix really. He said he wasn't happy with it and was selling it for £300.00. I stupidly didn't buy it because Warwicks had just come into fashion and we both really wanted one of those. My point is the bass was genuinely owned but the seller had no interest in it and wanted to move it on. Which he eventually did for £300.00. He really wanted that Warwick Thumb! So it could have been the best bargain of my life and if I saw a Wal at a car boot I'd have been in there like a shot. If it had been recently nicked from a musician then I'm guessing the FB muso pages would be full of "stolen gear..." To the OP. Its yours , you bought it in good faith. If it were me I'd be braggin about it at gigs...."yeah so got this for £50.00 at a car boot....amazing eh?...anyway so this is my EBS amp. Found it in a skip ect ect" Show us a pic. If anyone claims it was theirs then they need to prove it. I have a catalogue of pictures of me playing my Jazz bass at gigs, rehearsal rooms, the occasional studio on FB, other social media like Youtube, its in family pictures at my house in the background. I mean it wouldn't be hard to prove it were mine but it would be very hard to make a claim if it wasn't. I believe you bought this in good faith and think its above and beyond the call of duty to want to reunite it with the original owner so good for you. I personally wouldn't! Show us a pic!!

I once bought a used Wal from a shop in London. Took it to Pete at Wal HQ for a service and he said it had been nicked a few years earlier. I gave it straight back to him, and he gave me a brand new Wal as a thank you

In modern times I'd say Prince. Could play anything and do it exceptionally well. Wrote all sorts of music, sang, danced, did choreography and produced. Phenominal talent.

A drummer 90 miles away and doesn't drive - it will never work. You now have the singer with issues, this person also picks up the drummer, every time you have a singer issue it will effect two members of the band.

I think Bach. I remember hearing he could improvise entire fugues which means playing stanzas forward, backwards, upside down etc (the stanza, not the performer!!). As for contemporary musician, I haven't much of an idea really.

Just wanted to tell you guys about the customer service I recieved from Mark this week: A while back I ordered a couple of sets of La Bella Super Steps from Bass Direct which arrived quickly and in original packaging, on Sunday I decided to re-string a bass ready for some gigs this weekend, I opened a fitted one of the packs only to find that the D string was completely dead....to say I was slightly disappointed would be an understatement, anyway the following morning I rang Bass Direct and explained the issue, Mark asked me to email the details to him and he would raise it with La Bella which I duly did, Tuesday afternoon I get home from work to find a brand new set of Super Steps on my door mat! If Carlsberg did customer service was the phrase that sprang to mind!

So here is part of my stuff

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If you think you are getting a 'laugh' or a 'trophy' for that stinky poo to add to your '91', you can flip off.

Scrap it 5 pages in and he’s switched gear. ?

i) That's frequency response by a given definition of 'response'. For an in depth answer feel free to goggle something like 'bass cab -3dB' or something. But they'll be fine. ii) Meh, some people think so, Dave Rat for one. Most people don't bother though. If your band played a big outdoor festival tomorrow you'd use your current rig with a mic to FOH and the PA speakers would be reproducing all of that stuff anyway. iii) Can't comment. I've used and heard them both but as supplied PA, I've never moved either. Sometimes (I have no idea if it's true in this case) something heavy may be easier to carry than something lighter if it's got better handle placement, lower centre of gravity, better dimensions for doorways, etc etc iv) ALWAYS. These days there's no compromise. Even the cheap Altos that my band use are DSP crossed over, limited, frequency-corrected, blah blah blah. Tiny class D amps and good reliable microchips (driven by mobile phones and smart toasters and stuff I imagine) have meant that you can have what would have taken many racks and many thousands of pounds (weight and money) in a cheap PA cab these days.

Well, if the Antiques Roadshow hasn't convinced you to go to more car boot sales, this thread definitely should!

Hence the term 'His knibs'?

Yeh - some people like the idea of being in a band but don't actually have the time/commitment/whatever to actually do it. Some people's lives are just too chaotic. My default expectation is that we rehearse once a week. If you can't all spare an evening a week to be in a band then it's never getting off the ground.

I would take the QSC over the Yamaha... but would take a RCF 735 over the QSC - easier to carry, similar output - but more importantly, the all important 3" VC in the horn that enables it to have a lower crossover to free up the woofer to be more effective in the lows whilst given your vocals a lot more headroom. The 310s will do you for monitors but you will likely to need to roll off the some of the subs as you are asking a relatively little box to do quite a lot. I would go for a XR16 in that price range - digital and controllable via an iPad/android/laptop. Most important thing is that it opens up a lot in terms of gates, eq and compression on each channel. You'll be able to track down feedback a lot easier... as you have 31 band eq available on all outputs - and is perfect for crafting inears mixes if you want to explore that route at a later date. And it's tiny and can sit next to you on stage. The functionality of the Zed60 in comparison is miniscule.

I like your style.

Well this is interesting, isn't it. I post some thoughts on an FRFR speaker I bought and look where we end up. I bought it to amplify my bass signal from the DI of my Ampeg SCR-DI. Last album we just finished? Bass - Ampeg SCR-DI - Desk. And it sounds like, Er, a bass. Recorded just like most bass tracks for the last 60 years - straight into the desk. I like the recorded sound, and to replicate that live, I have bought a cab that lets me do that as neutrally as possible with no colouring from a bass cab or amp. But this thread ends up as a modelling vs valves vs massive amps vs well, you get the point. Emotive subject huh? I always thought bass playing was about what you did with your fingers. Then again, you know what they say - opinions are like bumholes - everyone has one, and usually they stink. I would also like to subscribe to the "I know s**t" gang as well please!

I was referring to the clear, sorry if it was misleading as you're still spraying colour coats! You can stop spraying colour when you're happy with how it looks, but a few extras can't hurt. Then 1 full can of clear following the rule of 3. You don't want to sand your colour coats unless really necessary, or you could get thin spots or burn through. The thinners in the clear Nitro will dissolve any roughness to the colour coats. Do your future level sanding of the clear coat (to remove dust knibs etc) in between clear coat sessions. For the neck you don't want to sand the tinted lacquer or you'll end up with an uneven tint, which can be difficult to even out. However the decal does need a good level surface. So spray a very good (level and glossy) final coat of tint. If you flatten it off and apply a decal over it you may also see scratches through the decal depending on the colour, so best avoided if possible.

Post rock and roll I'd say Prince or George Martin ( and my mate Andy Peacock who is a musical genius! )

I've had something very similar happen to me in the last couple of months. Got contacted by a friend of a friend (a guitarist, I know him to say hello to) who's spent the last year or so putting a band together and they had just started getting some gigs and coverage. But his bass player, drummer and singer quit for assorted (and apparently genuine - I did check) reasons, do I fancy it? I say why not, he says that he may not be able to do anything until the New Year for other reasons, but he'll send me some tracks to work on. No problem, I have other stuff going on. In the meantime I find a drummer and singer (just by chatting to a couple of mates in the pub) and forward their details - great, it's all coming together... ...get the message back that "something major has come up, not sure when I'm going to have time to get back to the band, it'll have to be on hold for now" Doesn't phase me at all. If the guitarist gets it all together and the band happens then great. But for now it's not happening so I'll carry on with other stuff. There's no practical difference to me whether there is a band which isn't rehearsing right now or no band at all. Don't need to burn any bridges or spit my dummy out, I only have a decision to make if the guitarist ever sorts his life out.

I like a solid breakfast me, and have the same problem with any bass. I don't care. The main thing is to concentrate on what you're playing and have fun.

A long long time ago I sometimes used a Gibson SG in my band, it wasn't a good look like an elephant with a stick of rhubarb I remember someone saying.

I'm not a fan as such, but for modern times Prince should be considered IMO

I am in something similar. We have been going for a year had three practices with about a dozen different members coming in and out within this time, with the setlist changing significantly within this time. I treat is a a maybe project and will only now learn the tracks to jam level a day before any rehersal. I am also looking at other projects and keeping investments in this one to a minimum. I feel your pain.

I'm kind of in agreement that this sounds like its not gonna happen, however my own personal band circumstances - geographically there are 238 miles between furthest flung band members, we meet up for practice once every blue moon, and several members are involved in 'other projects' of various denominations. However, its the most fun I've ever had with a bunch of like minded plonkers....sorry, band mates, we're travelling all over the UK and to be honest we aint doing too bad. Only you can decide if this is worth waiting out, but for my two penneth, Id say don't go burning any bridges just yet, but obviously keep your eyes open. (Also) dave

Prince

Speaking of Merseybeat, just read an English travelogue where the author takes the ferry out of Liverpool. While embarking and debarking they play Gerry Marsden with Gerry and the Pacemakers singing Ferry Cross the Mersey on a loop. Actually not a bad song heard once in a blue moon, but could not imagine working there and not going absolutely bonkers.

sigh ....

There have been a number of threads on this subject - for example From personal experience, I love EMGs and the "hot" pickup from GFS is great for the money - http://www.guitarfetish.com/GFS-Pro-Series-HOT-P-Bass-Pickup-Pickup-OUR-BEST-_p_10978.html

It's an early 80s Hohner, made by Cort in Korea. Up to about '81 or '82 Hohners were Japanese, made by Moridaira, but manufacture of these types of instrument moved to Korea in the late 70s/early 80s due to rising production costs in Japan, and the move by the Japanese guitar industry towards higher-end original designs. This bass probably pre-dates the mid 80s Hohner Professional range by a couple of years. Always liked the bog-seat saddles & abalone inlays on the MIK Hohners.

Had a quick look around myself, and I don't think the socket is for an extension cab, otherise it'd be labelled as an output. I can't find your precise model, but based upon other similar Stagg amps it's likely to be either a headphone output or an cd/mp3 input, meaning you can plug a cable into the amp to play practice tracks through it. In either case, the socket is likely to be stereo jack. Any chance you could give us a photo, to be sure...? Separately - whilst not wanting to confuse matters - an extension speaker could very feasibly be connected by a speaker cable terminated in standard sized mono jacks. This is a common connection method for older or lower powered amplifiers to speakers. Things didn't go Speakon (specifically for instrument amps) until relatively recently. However, nothing I could see on any Stagg bass amp suggested that an extension speaker was possible. I expect the amp is running at it's lowest impedance anyway - so adding a cab would reduce impedance further. Hope some (or any) of this is helpful to you.

Why not have a jam with the drummer? After all you're going to be the backbone of the band - great opportunity to get some rapport going...

I bagged an as-new Sentry on eBay. Thanks for the tip, @CameronJ!

What about this mid 70s beast with matching dark Mocha fretboard??

Looks weird with the silver grill.

Another example of not to believe what you see on Youtube....I watched a demo of a well-known NW Company spraying a guitar body with 3/4 coats of nitro and then saying he would do a further 2 coats of clear gloss. So I decided I was going to do the same: 3/4 coats colour and 2 clear, let it dry and then flat and buff. However I noticed this morning that I could still see the scratches through the paint from my scuff coat, so based on Norris's message above decided to flat off 'in between'. Did that very gently and then shot a couple more colour coats and hey presto, no more visible scratches from my initial scuff coat through the nitro paint! Thanks! So tomorrow will do 2 coats of clear gloss and then hang it up till the New Year! Have been Amber Tinting the neck too, got a run which I only saw this morning from last night, so rubbed it down with 1200 and then shot a couple more coats over that now bare area, let it dry then continued with front and back of the neck and its healed in nicely with no trace of the run. Thought it best to do it early on rather than build up layers over it which will just have to be rubbed back down.

I desperately wanted them to he just like High Beams at half the cost! alas no!! they aren't awful though for the money.

NPD!! sold my old faithfull EBS Unichorus and bought an MXR Bass Chorus Deluxe!! Absolutely delighted with it,especially the flanger which sounds fantastic. The EBS flanger was very subtle like a flanger/chorus, but the MXR sounds much more like a flanger! I love it it looks great too,definately put MXR on my radar.

Wings - the band The Beatles could have been.

Some years ago, (30ish) one of my friends was working as an engineer at The Gallery studio in Chertsey. This was at the time property of one Phil Manzerera of Roxy Music. In the office and on various parts of the building there were the gold and platinum discs for record sales not just by Roxy Music but artists like Cliff Richard and the like. All had recorded those works here at the Gallery. Apart from the odd session I was given (its all about who you know) I was frequently hanging out there as we used a lot of the down time for free to construct our own masterpieces. It dawned on us that at some time or other not only all of Roxy Music but also the Cliff had probably at one time or another used the bog for a dump. And now so had we. Does that count?

They look like they're from Claire's Accessories