Al Krow

What is "WAI"? If it had achieved AGI then this would have been announced to the world already, with massive headlines. I suspect it's not even close to AGI. It's just an algorithm that has no awareness what its responses actually mean.

Launch price of £340. That seems decent given the price of the competition and what this can do? Be interesting to see how this is put to live performance use, in a band context, by first adopters.

Agreed. I don't think many (most?) people learn an instrument to perform in public (which in my books = to strangers as opposed to family and friends). I think they do it because they just want to make music? Certainly true for most folk learning the piano, probably less true for folk wanting to learn the electric bass.

Hi Michael, on this very rare occasion I think I need to disagree! I've been able to save an existing setting, effectively using it as a starting point template, simply by saving it to another location. Can also change the order by using the same approach i.e. saving to a new location. (Need to have one spare slot so you don't lose the patch you're overwriting if you want to keep i.e. make sure to move that by saving to the spare slot etc).

I don't follow your point? It seems you enjoy making music as a hobby and have spent more on kit than will be recouped purely by your earnings from your hobby. But so do eg most golfers who are hobbyists. In both cases @SumOne's point is correct - AI is not going to take away your ability to make live music / play golf. The ability to earn a living from playing music live, well that's a whole different discussion! Not many make a living from purely performing these days, and that's been the case for a couple of decades or more. The pro's who do, from what I can tell, work bloody hard and are generally playing at a level up from an average pub band.

Sure, but that's not something that started this year, it's been happening over a couple of decades already, and driven by multiple factors that preceded AI, in particular: - decline in alcohol consumption and pubs closing down; - the rise of video/pc/multi player gaming in popularity as an alternative to going out / heading to a nightclub.

Well it's a different audience, isn't it, and you'll often find folk either into classical or pop/rock with some in the overlap group. I really enjoyed going to the Proms! 1 orchestra can have more musos than 10 cover bands. And let's not try to compare musicianship 'cos it's not going to come out too well for the average pub rocker is it? Nope, what I'm saying is pretty much in line with what @Ben Jamin said - live performance is, for me, where it's going to be at. Btw Elvis sang some great songs, the point is no one remembers who wrote them, they remember him though. And it wasn't just about looks, the man could sing and he could also perform.

People still go to hear classical music live, right? And arguably the very best of that had been composed by the early 20th Century give or take? There's still a very considerable demand to hear orchestras performing classical "covers". Why is that? The human interaction I'm referring to is between performer and audience. If their rep includes AI music and it's great music, then the performance will still be the performance irrespective of who/what composed the tune. That was my point about Elvis. No one cared who wrote the tune as long as it was a great tune.

Haha - now you might not think it misleading if your bandmates wrote their particular parts, but how about Elvis - didn't write any of his own stuff (co-authored a few)? Tbf he never claimed otherwise = full disclosure? And apparently audiences weren't too fussed?! (See earlier comment about performer / audience interaction surviving AI).

I've no issue with full disclosure ai labelling whether it be "fully ai generated", "ai assisted" etc - I think folk should be allowed to choose to support/listen to what they want in the same way that "free range" eggs is a useful label? But I agree that there is plenty of human slop out there! Would it be fair to say that 99.99% of original material uploaded could be regarded as derivative and uninteresting? Most successful solo artists / songwriters are using session musicians to lay down the backing tracks. It seems to me that the latter could well be a first music casualty of war with the new tech (just as software engineers, audit juniors etc are finding in their fields of work). Where ai is going to struggle to compete is full band live performances with no backing tracks - and that is where I'm going to be focussing my live bass playing. If we end up including songs that have an ai imprint rather than purely covering other folk's back catalogue, I'm cool with that - the human interaction with an audience will remain intact.

Cool thanks - how do you find the Pro version "Editor" for editing / changing parts of tracks you have already got that you're not 100% happy with? I guess that's where the Studio version seems to be a decent step up i.e. feels like a DAW with ai assistance for laying down the tracks?

Which version of Suno are you using? I think there are three options: Free, Pro and Studio?

Not been our experience: e.g. we all immediately noticed greater articulation through our IEMs when we upgraded our desk (albeit from Soundcraft-> A&H) and the better quality preamps were a big chunk of that improvement I would hazard?

Hey Andy, kinda thinking @Phil Starr's RCF 310A set up could be a neat, lightweight and very good sounding set up for you guys. I'll let him jump in with more detailed thoughts, which I'm sure he will be happy to give. @Woodinblack has base speaker plus array set up (also RCF I think), which will deliver a fuller sound, but may be more than you need, but could allow you to also go via the desk if you fancy doing that down the line.

Something I've never done, but would have loved to! What about you guys? What are your stories of being on the road, the highs, the lows and the in-betweens? When did you go and how did it end? What have you got coming up? Pics always welcome!