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Yeah it's a good stage tone, most of the top end will just end up competing with the guitarist and vocalists part of the frequency range, so with a bit of high mids added in you'll sit nicely in the mix. Who needs extra string noise anyway
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Just in case people don't know @VTypeV4 has been a professional sound engineer for 24 years and counting. The sort of quiet experience that we should all listen to. I'm going to be busy every evening next week taking his advice and tweaking the results in the studio. It's worth visiting his long thread and seeing what he does. It's a real eye opener about how touring shows operate their sound and a festival of great mixers, not just the Yamaha he started out with. You will have mixer envy.
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Thanks for this, I've been hoping you would come along, I've been stalking your long Yamaha mixer thread for years. I'll give that a try as a stating point
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Phil Starr started following Can somebody explain DI Recording to a dummy? , "Hot" pick ups question ? , Build a speaker cabinet in a 19" rack case? and 1 other
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Hi Dave, most of the 'hot' pickups are going to have a lot more windings in the coils. You'll often see this in the specs with the higher impedance or DC resistance of the PUP's. More wire and thinner wire=more resistance. This has a secondary effect, coils have something called inductance where the impedance (resistance which is frequency dependant, sort of) rises with frequency and acts as a low pass filter. More turns means less treble and a darker sounding pickup. That may be what you are hearing.
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So how to go about getting this sort of sound, any ideas?
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That's what I do, to be fair it's the monitor feed he worries about.
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Build a speaker cabinet in a 19" rack case?
Phil Starr replied to Rosie C's topic in Repairs and Technical
I can see the attraction of building a cab inside this case, it's a convenient size for a cab and you wouldn'tneed to worry about the finish as it already looks like a bit of pro gear. A 2x8 would work and so would a 10 maybe even a 12. youc ould easily build a bass cab or a guitar cab based on this. If you decide to go ahead PM me and I can help with dimensions and tuning. The only problem I have that is if the vocals /guitar are sounding a bit thin it's the low mids not the bass that needs addressing. -
Build a speaker cabinet in a 19" rack case?
Phil Starr replied to Rosie C's topic in Repairs and Technical
Funnily enough, I'm helping someone else out with a disguised built in cab. and i was also thinking of advising your to damp the rack cab with expanding foam. A lot depend supon what you mean by: There isn't really any significant 'low end' in guitar/vocals so perhps you could explain a little more about how you picture using this. -
I have loads of presets available and started up with the most basic of them in place. I got terrible feedback issues and realised that all of them applied quite a lot of compression which isn't really helpful with my sort of pub gigs where the complete set up often has to be done in 30 mins, there's little time for a proper sound check and any mixing has to be done when I can get out in front on a wireless connection. It would be great to hear what you have done here when you do copy the settings across.
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Are you mad? Or was this suggested by the singer? 😁 Great songs though, your audiences will love you. I've always fancied doing Filthy Gorgeous, proper party song .
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So how do you go about this? I could do with some helpful pointers to what is practical and what works for you. It's not been an issue for me to date given the limitations of an analogue desk small enough to sit on stage and mixing for other bands has just been a matter of small adjustments to whatever echo was available until it sounded OK, tweaked throughout the set and on the rare occasions of repeat gigs marking the desk with bits of tape to recall last weeks settings. I'm old enough to have used a WEM Copycat 🤣 Now I can set up scenes as well as save 100 different gig settings it seems sensible to explore this a little and do things a bit better. I play with three singers: a man who hates any hint of echo but sounds better with it, a female singer who loves and demands it even in her monitors and a second woman who is happy to let me do whatever sounds best but doesn't like a lot in her monitor. So you are in a typical pub with a female vocalist, pop/rock covers and it's packed so not a lot of natural reverb in the room and you have both reverb and delay available. Where do you start?
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Mixing IEM's - share your knowledge/experience here please
Phil Starr replied to JPJ's topic in PA set up and use
I've had a couple noise problems off my BD121, it has picked up some electrical noise from some cheap lights somebody was using at a private party and also made some odd high pitched noises just once at a pub gig. Again it might have been some radio pickup from something faulty in the room. I swapped from 8.4v to 9.6v rechargeables and the problem never recurred but the BD121 is clearly more susceptible to radio pickup than the Sansamp. Both can be quite noisy at the extreme setings but shouldn't be when set straight through. If the noise is mainly high frequency you don't need anything above 8kHz from the bass so you might be able to reduce the noise by filtering or just easing off the treble. I tend to use the SAnsamp nowadays as it is more resistant to old batteries and has been totally reliable but dare I say the Behringer sounds just a tiny bit better to my ears. Most sound engineers much prefer to take a feed before the fx units or modellers as they are often a source of noise particularly when chained. -
Can somebody explain DI Recording to a dummy?
Phil Starr replied to MikeTheMisfit's topic in General Discussion
I can do simple DI is actually Direct Injection. It is just a way of getting the cleanest possible signal to your mixer whether that is on stage or in the recording studio. Your microphone, amp and speaker all colour your tone (hopefully in a good way) and your guitar lead probably adds in a few crackles a bit of background noise and even maybe some radio pickup. Your amp also probably adds in a little bit of hum and some noise of its own. Any sound engineer wants to start with the cleanest sound possible and they can add in any colouring they want later. Microphone leads are noise cancelling so plugging the shortest possible guitar lead into a DI box means a clean sound from then on. Some amps have a DI box built in. An interface is just a way of converting the sound in your lead into something a computer can understand: analogue to digital. You'll see terms like A/D converter and so on, it's all the same thing. Fortunately almost all interfaces have a DI built in so you can plug your guitar lead straight into them without needing an amp or a DI box. Some mixing desks have an interface built in, I've got a really old Alesis four channel mixer and it has a USB port so if you have a USB port on your mixer try plugging it in and see what it does. If not you have to buy an interface like the ones suggested DAW is Digital Audio Workstation. It's basically an App or computer program that turns your computer into a recorder and a mixing desk. There are loads of them out there ranging from simple to really complex. Plenty of them are free and really good but for a few hundred pounds you cn have more power at home than the best recording studios could dream of even just a few years back. There are even apps that will process everything for you online so if your computer is old and slow you can still mix tracks down Soundtrap is one I used during the lockdown to work with friends when we couldn't meet. They've never shut down my months free trial If you do go down this route then it's worth knowing that one trick is to record from your amp and through a DI at the same time and then you can mix the two signals and have a mix of clean and dirty sounds. Hope that helps -
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Phil Starr replied to Phil Starr's topic in PA set up and use
I knew someone would sell them -
RCF ART310 Mk IV reduced price at Thomann
Phil Starr replied to Phil Starr's topic in PA set up and use
Remove his stool and make him sit on the monitor Failing that buy a vibrating butt plug that will accept audio.