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I do enjoy this YouTube series. Here's ep.36 on Roundabout.

If your 5 string has no punch and is difficult to amplify then you need a better 5 string bass and a better amplifier.

We had a somewhat different experience - we played together, off and on, for a year as a blues workshop at Band on the Wall in Mcr which ended with a friends and family gig at the BotW cafe. At the end of that gig we looked at each other and knew we couldn't let it end there. There was so much shared energy and potential, we just had to carry it on as A Real Band 🙂 Two people did drop out, one more joined, but by then we knew exactly how much commitment and ambition was shared. Played our first gigs outside Mcr last weekend, and we're all looking forward - realistically - to building on it.

Need to pull out "Rain Tree Crow" - aka Japan reformed for a new project. Lots of internal politics as a result of Sylvian's control issues - I haven't listened to it for a while. here's your chance.

Here's a cut-out-and-keep guide to tort wot I made.

Hope it was cash up front. I wouldn’t want to see you getting fleeced.

1972 all original Fender Jazz, with the original case, she’s aged beautifully with great looking wear and checking all over, she was Olympic white but is now a gorgeous buttermilk colour with the most beautiful piece of tort I’ve seen, I think my soul was a small price to pay.

This is such a simple truss rod system that i'm wondering why it isn't used in loads of basses ?

That neck i posted is a peavey, so yes, they deffo use it in some basses

Yep - Musima, those were. They made some of the 80s Marlins too. Same type of truss adjuster appears on a fair few low-end Korean & earlyJapanese instruments, along with other eminently sensible but uncommon features such as zero-frets.

When I tried the QSC it wasn’t billed as a standard PA speaker, or actually as an frfr as such - the marketing bumf suggested it was a multi-use cab for a variety of instrument, vocal, live and recorded music applications. As such, the dsp stuff is clearly there for a wider range of applications, for people who are just using one out and about or whatever. I didn’t buy mine based on that at all. I had it set to a default flat eq and a/b’d it with a DXR10 and another. It was flat out better at bass - by a significant margin. It felt better quality and was in special so the price difference was small. I use it as a monitor with DI in from a preamp, and pass through out to the desk. I have used the “bass” setting as a stand-alone - it makes a good backup if my pedal board failed 2 mins before the gig - I’d plug straight in and get on with it. It was always bought as a small footprint easy to cart about live rig when I didn’t need to provide lots of backline heft. I have an EICH t1000 and a vanderkley 2x10 1200w cab for that. In its bag, I can carry it, and a pedalboard and a bass in one trip from car to venue, and take up virtually no space on board at all. I can point it at me directly for monitoring. Sound engineers love the fact they just plug in to it and don’t have to worry about a bass monitor. The rest of the band love it as I take up little room, don’t wash out the sound, and I even angle it towards the drummer to give him a bit more. He loves it too. Our keys player bought one for monitoring such was his enamour.

Second round done. You have to be careful with colour matching and consistency with the tinted danish oil, but otherwise it’s going on well: It’s starting to take on that nice satin sheen naturally, so I think a third round is in order and then a good drying off before some light buffing. I’m really liking the antique/old refinish look of it - sort of “stripped and refinished in the 60s” look..

... or just the two of 'em ...

No punch and difficult to amplify? , I've heard it all now! Lol

This. Playing is good. More playing is better

Paul Simon - Graceland. Possibly cliche, but I love that fretless sound.

Hope your amp was set up correctly. Wouldn't want any clipping...........................

Did your set include I Just Called to say I Love Ewe? Or maybe Shear Heart Attack?

Me, I like this one.

In these situations I always recommend a bit of Stephen Amazing - starts just after 2:00 - and played with a plec!

I think the technical term, given the smoky venues these basses will have been played in, is 'Fagnolia'... 😀

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It depends what music style you're talking but clearly 5 stringers haven't played a great part in indie or punk styles (though Alex from Blur and also Beck have been known to use Stingray 5s - probably studio only). There have been comments in this thread about industry standard 5 string basses, or the lack of. This is actually not true but there have been a range of them over the years - these would include:- MM Stingray 5 (great at a modern sound but also great at an authoritative vintage sound) - subsequently US Sub, Bongo, Classic 5 and Sterling 5. Lakland 55/94 or 55/01 - subsequently lots variants Various Warwick but particularly Thumb, Jazzman or Stage 1/2 Yamaha - various models Sadowski MTD - various Ibanez - various G and L various Somewhat late to the party - Fender (various Jazz and Precision variants) Many of these basses have been active type basses as the extended range arguably works better in this format.

I shall be moving onto the other notes when I feel I have fully mastered the A and not a moment sooner

Snap..! The coloured cord end goes to the console; yellow for Xlr, red for jacks and blue for speaker cable. I've the same PA cables for over fifteen years, thanks to knowing which are mine. I, too, fit thin velcro loops for keeping the cables coiled up neatly. S'easy, really; now even our singer knows how and what to plug in where, and how to tidy 'em up afterwards. Result..!

Gave it a good few hours to dry out - and I’ve now done a wet and dry pass (1200 grit) with water. Body and neck are both silky smooth, and so I will leave it overnight and give it another pass over tomorrow. It’s looking pretty much how I wanted it to now:

Appreciated and fully understand where you are coming from Blue Dave

My position and comment, not so much of a comparison of me to others, more of a general point of interest. Blue

There's nothing political about the free Tommy nonsense though. It's not even a rational argument, let alone a political statement.

You haven’t seen my ability to ruin a project when it starts looking good though...

My ACG has it, and Stingrays do as well of course. I suspect it’s an aesthetic thing

6 hours drying and 3rd coat just gone on.. Needs a dry off and then flatting down - I will use a combination of 0000 wool, wet and dry, and a very fine sanding/finishing block I have - and then a coat of polish to give it some sheen.

Gone too far not to get it done? I understand completely.

Dan bought a cab from me. As I`m from darn sarf and he`s from oop north we met at a gig I was playing in the midlands for the handover. Had a good chat as you do. Comms throughout were good, swift payment, all that`s good in a transaction. Hope you like the cab Dan, it`s a cracker.

If I buy one, can I pay for it with fake money?

It's slightly complicated with two cabs because the impedance changes so you may, or may not draw more power from the amp. That's probably less of a problem with valve amps of course as the output transformer means they should be able to match to most common impedances. For the same power doubling the cone area will give you an extra 3dB. That's how itsmedunc got such a good result from his Ashdown 4x8's I'm guessing here but an 8" speaker is pretty efficient if it gives 92dB/W. Two would give you 95dB about the same as a reasonable 12" speaker. Four drivers would double again so 98dB/W and two cabs 101dB/W a 50W amp into this would give an extra 17dB That will give you 118dB the same as you might get from a Two10 and a 100W valve amp. Two Two10's with a 100W amp would give you 121dB, with a little overdrive/distortion that would be as loud as a 124dB solid state system in practice. Louder than almost all drums and more than enough to permanently damage your hearing. At this stage I need to say something. Each 3db increase in level halves the time you should be exposed to noise. Anything above 85dB will damage your hearing permanently if you are exposed to it for too long. The 100dB levels we average on stage with a Rock band will start to damage your hearing in about 15mins without ear plugs. I have mild tinnitus. https://www.noisehelp.com/noise-dose.html

It was actually this thread which motivated me to post this: https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/327234-nbd-1976-greco-precision-bass/ @umcoo picked up a '76 Greco P from Japan for about £200 inc import duties etc - a minor project but a ridiculous bargain. The thread turned into a love-in for quality MIJ P copies. I wouldn't swap my 1980-ish Daion P, or my CSL Jazz for anything with a "proper" badge on the headstock.

Belatedly my thanks and congratulations. I too would have preferred two separate one-hour episodes - of course i could have split up listening to it, but i got absorbed and went straight through. Good natural voices. Good to have the segments explicitly flagged up. Tiny detail - there have been threads here about "what should you always have with you at a gig" usually spare battery. strings, &c but the podcast was the first time I'd heard a hand towel recommended. I passed that tip on to the others in my band. We played a couple of outdoor marquee gigs last weekend, and I was not the only one who gratefully reached for a towel between every song! Thank you @SpondonBassed 🙂 It's a lot harder to do than it sounds, very well done and thank you.

Incognito. Julian Crampton..Jacobs Ladder. Ive seen him play this live on an F Bass and it was flawless.

Well don’t ask @dood; he’ll tell you to get a flip refinish!!

Now that’s a challenge to the profanity filter!!!!

I don’t really play chordal stuff high up the, well very rarely, and I’ll still have other basses to use. I’m starting to think that @dood is a bad influence! His review was the reason I bought my EBS Sheehan dive pedal, and now since watching his Combustion v NG-2 vid I’m constantly looking at Dingwall basses! Hardest decision is which colour to choose!

I left a band after 12 years due to boredom with the music and wanting to play different stuff. I assured them there were no personal issues and that I would cover the gigs for the following two months. Also offered to dep if they needed someone. We are all still on good terms and I occasionally go to one of their gigs. Just be honest about why you're leaving and try to part on good terms.

Nice, just be thankful you weren't born in 1960!

And yes the first two albums are the best ones : Adolescent Sex and Obscure Alternatives, still lots of rebellion in the music.

I've been around for a while. A lot of these guys absolutely love the idea of gigging, but at the end of the day don't have what it takes to get gigs. Most start ups never see their first gig. Blue

It's just a tool. I play a 5 purely because I get piano scores rather than bass parts and I like to be able to play the low end without having to thing about changing things. Half the time I don't use the lowest notes but I have more positions to play in because I can play across the board rather than up and down. TBH anyone who does the "4 was good enough for Jaco" routine is a weapons grade silly billy. There were hardly any 5 string basses around at the time. There was the 15 fret Fender V 1965 but the first really popular 5 was the Stingray and that wasn't introduced until 1987. The year Jaco died. Wal and Alembic did some before that but they weren't common or affordable. Who knows what he would have done if he had lived longer. But one thing I am sure of - he wouldn't have said - "Oh look! a 3 string double bass was good enough for Bottesini so that's good enough for everyone"