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I'm a big NR and JH fan, so I'm a little biased. IMHO NR did a fantastic job with Jimi. There's a lot of stuff written wrongly over the years over he played/didn't play that. I've read a good number of books on the subject(s), and it's pretty safe that NR played on the first 2 albums, and parts of the 3rd (JH played a bit on EL, plus Jack Casady's on there too....the entire sessions are a bit of a haze to all involved! JH could have replaced Noel if he'd have wanted to, I'm sure - but he didn't. There's been loads of stuff also written over the years about he was also planning to dump Mitch, Billy Cox was going to quit....to do this, do that.....all we're left with are the actual events. Noel did leave in '69, management wanted them to reform early '70 (did a Rolling Stone interview), but it never happened. The management side of JH is worth reading in to - it is very, very sinister indeed. Noel and Mitch sold their rights long before the reissue era, and before dead rock stars became such big currency. Not surprised there was bitterness - the whole Experience Hendrix corporation....JH's half-sister (I believe they only met a handful, if that, of times) running the whole show, whilst even JH's real brother is shut out. Very nasty wranglings, whilst the pointless re-issues and digging keep on going, and the branding gets more and more ridiculous. Still, the original records are out there, together with some great live and session stuff. I for one love Noel's tone, his style, equally as much as I enjoy Billy Cox's more traditional approach. Two different players for two different eras.

So you think something like the video below involves no artistic talent to create? Really?
 You should maybe invite this guy along to some of your pub gigs, let him see what true artistic creativity looks like... PS: all made with sampled YouTube clips.

We had band rehearsal last night and, well, I was really busy this week so I didn't get a proper amount of time to learn the new songs. It was suggested that we learn Footloose, but if I'm honest, I couldn't get into the song no matter how much I tried. Mods, can you help with my Loggins trouble?

All our valve amps 100w and upwards are 100% built by us on site at HQ in Essex, Always have been and all being well Always will be. Happy for anyone to come and visit and watch one being built(BUILT not ASSEMBLED) from start to finish

I just bought a Squier VM fretless Precision off Grangur on this forum, and it's quite extraordinary. It has a very acceptable sound, is very playable, has an astonishingly straight neck, for a cheapo, which is fast and responsive to adjustment. It's well finished, the tuners are efficient at keeping the strings in tune (which is, after all, what you expect from tuners) and the bent metal bridge is easily adjustable and stable. The downsides are an overly light body, which means there's a bit of neck dive, and a slightly bland pickup. This is not just an adequate starter instrument, which is why I bought it. It's a good, giggable bass. And these things only cost just over £300 new. £300 is not a lot of money, really, for a musical instrument. £300 is what you can end up paying an emergency plumber (more in London). It's two months commuting, if you live in the city. It's three or four nights out. Six theatre tickets. Two tickets for the Rolling Stones. A third of an iphone. Now, cheap end stuff in the past has been utter crap. Anyone who started playing in the 60s and 70s will recall the unplayable garbage we were expected to start on. So, here's the question: is this purely a result of improved design, tech and production methods, or is someone somewhere not getting paid properly for their work?

Anyway, just to cheer everyone up here's the Ace of Spades album cover with some kittens on it.

But the thread was started to to prompt discussion both ways. Not just a slagging off thread...

There some options out there

Did they also factor in how much smaller Mars Bars are now compared to,say, the 1960s? If you play a short scale bass now, instead of a long scale back in the day, It would even out the conversion.

That's why you need to down some Lucozade before hand...

How about having a go at this classic I've only ever seen 2 pub bands pull it off (admittedly I was in one of them ) and it's a good bass work out as well as a favourite with the crowd who don't usually expect to hear it.

I've heard bands that don't use samples that have no artistic content!

10 staff may be, but an owner who never stops, sleeps or gets put off by anything, as long as there is coffee 😜. (Based on Mark Gooday’s FB activity)

If you ONLY use samples from preexisting pieces of music, and assemble them in a different way to create something new, that is creative by definition. Sometimes it's done lazily, sure, but no more so than lazy songwriters knocking out obvious progressions/cheesy lyrics.

I wouldn't want to be the one who told him....................

I said artists that ONLY use samples. If they actually do something creative with them then that is different. Mate, Aussies don't drink Fosters, we export it to you to drink England has never recovered from the blunder of sending the convicts to the land of sun , surf, and good times. leaving the do gooders in dank depressing wet England lol

I haven't owned or played that specific one but I own a CV 50's P and have briefly played a CV 60's Jazz, I can say that they're great instruments. The big question will probably be, how are you with thick glossy necks? If you're exclusively a satin neck guy, you likely wont get on with them as the glossy finish is very thick. But, that being said, it's definitely worth having a wee shot on one to see how you like it.

It’s a tricky one with noise nuisance and to be honest, I’d probably side with the neighbours. I used to live in a townhouse with paper thin walls and we had major problems with noise from the neighbours. The problem is you’re always on edge. Every night we were just waiting for the drum and bass party next door to start. Partly due to this, I am now so mindful of how bass frequencies travel. We’ve all heard a boy racer from 2 miles away with the parcel shelf in his Corsa bouncing. If I’m not playing through my headphones, I’ll play through my rig sat on a gramma pad at truly quiet ‘radio’ levels. If ever I need to briefly crank something up to ‘vibration’ levels (testing cabs etc) I’d ensure that the neighbours were out or I’d set up in the garage on a concrete floor.

I loved the JJ Burnel sound, and his bass on the Stranglers first album "Rattus Norvegicus" was what first made me listen to the bass guitar So that's my contribution - not necessarily my fave album these days, but it's what got me into bass

As NAMM is nearly upon us we finally get a hint of the new drive from OE!

Nice thing he said to Neil in the interview was that despite himself and Cornwell writing most of the music, ( though not all - Greenfield came up with the riff for Golden Brown, of a sorts ) JJ and HC didnt expect more cash as the writers, and they just distributed the money equally. In JJ's eyes, he said the moment Dave and Jet added their own pieces, they had partly written the songs as well, and so they never had that in-band rucking when someone thinks they should get more quids than the others. Nice touch , i thought

Yes, I think you're spot on here. I'm fairly sure that most manufacturers and food producers etc who say they are fair trade, in fact actually are fair trade - as far as they can confirm this. Many will indeed source fair trade materials / foods / ingredients etc and check on these items and sources, and even ensure further checks are made from time to time, to ensure consistency.... However, as you say, supply chains being what they are, and some businesses being what they are - I'm sure that some of them may be finding loopholes..... sadly I would be willing to pay a bit more, if that ensured that sustainability, fair wages and working conditions could be guaranteed PS. roceci - I really do wish I'd kept that VM fretless - it was an absolutely lovely bass (you know, I wasn't just saying so at the time! - it wasn't a sales pitch lol) You have a good 'un there matey.... honestly, US / MIM and MIJ versions of the same bass are not that much better..... Perhaps the pickups could be improved - but I seem to recall that even they were pretty good, for such a reasonably priced instrument...

I've moved it

I named my ash/maple 78 Precision Ian Paisley as it just seemed to bark aggressively, there were no subtleties with that bass, especially with the (ham-fisted) way I play.

That Ash one sounds outrageous with a pick.

Here's the setlist of a band I've depped for in the past - they have a female singer, albeit one with a very low voice Motorhead - Ace Of Spades Sabbath - Paranoid Sabbath - NIB Metallica - Sandman Stone Temple Pilots - Sex Type Thing Stone Temple Pilots - Plush Stone Temple Pilots - Crackerman Iron Maiden - The Trooper Judas Priest - Another Thing Coming Velvet Revolver - Set Me Free Velvet Revolver - Slither Therapy? - Screamager Therapy? - Nowhere Slash - Bad Rain Staind - It's Been A While Avenged Sevenfold - Shepherd Of Fire Queens Of The Stone Age - No-One Knows Led Zeplin - The Immigrant Song Foo Fighters - All My Life Dio - Holy Diver Billy Idol - Rebel Yell Police - Message In A Bottle (rocked up) Megadeth - Symphony Of Destruction Rage Against The Machine - Killing In The Name Drowning Pool - Bodies Royal Blood - Figure It Out Blondie - Hanging On The Telephone Faith No More - From Out Of Nowhere Ugly Kid Joe - Neighbour Anthrax - Got The Time Nirvana - Breed Texas Hippie Coalition - whizzed Off And Mad About It Stiltskin - Inside

I think the answers to your final questions are yes to all of them.

Too true. There are many instances where boycotts by western countries of others due to things like 'bad' labour practices have usually been counter productive. In places like Bangladesh, Indonesia, China and the Phillipines factory jobs at least offer relatively steady employment the alternatives usually being either unemployment and starvation or lives as subsistence farmers. Anyway it may be that higher end products, whether basses or anything else, are overpriced due to the power of high profile or prestige brands rather than any superior intrinsic qualities. I do wonder at how come some hand made basses cost upwards of £3k, more than the cost of a relatively decent used car

Those amps are infamous for the power stage bias drifting and creating distortion. If that is the case you should be able to hear the same symptom through other cabs. The fix is not terribly difficult, but is generally best left to a qualified technician since getting it wrong makes for a pretty expensive episode of releasing the magic smoke.

There's perhaps a slightly different explanation - other than guitar based music - which is often in E and A (although quite a lot of metal actually uses dropped tunings) lots of music is in keys like Eb and C often to suit keyboards, sometimes to suit singers and sometimes to suit brass instruments. They will often have lower notes than E, which may not work played on a 4 string unless you use an octaver - which sometimes have tracking problems. The whole reason 5 string basses with low B strings became popular in the 1980s was to allow bassists to play parts played on keyboards which during that era were probably as popular as guitars - in fact nicked a lot of work off both bassists and guitarists. Dance music often uses notes lower than E. So it shouldn't be a great surprise to find a Stingray tuned to Eb - they can be tuned even lower than B and still work fine. It's a standing joke amongst musicians and is referred to on this forum sometimes how guitarists seldom want to play songs like Superstition, I Wish in the proper key (Eb) or even Hard to Handle (Bb). If you have a sax player, they will give a wry smile when asked to play these songs in E or B etc ..... it generally reflects guitarists with restricted ability.

Normally when artists say this it means that they don't own the recordings. Most of the time record companies will retain the mechanical copyright - certainly for any band that is successful and still selling albums. They will only release the rights to the recordings when it no longer profitable for them to continue to own them. Ownership of the song/music itself and publishing is completely different and this is what is in dispute. Unless the songwriters in Radiohead signed a very poor publishing deal initially they should still own at least 50% of the rights to the song between all the named songwriters. However anyone with a financial interest in the the actual song could be the one instigating this action.

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