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Why would you stay away from all digital compressors? There are good and bad examples of analog and digital. The MXR is a good comp, but there's plenty of love for the Spectracomp on here and elsewhere. Sweeping generalisations don't really help.

I'll just put this out here... Many fans of The Beatles on this thread are starting to sound much like my parents did when they went on about the "superiority" of classical music and how this new pop/rock wasn't proper music back in the early 70s.

I haven't stepped boldly anywhere except for the front of the line at my local Chinese Buffet. Blue

Here we go again Channel 4 should have something like this for a bass/guitar themed 'Grand Designs'!

Class mate. Love that song about the Yellow Walrus

Didn't the company originally make it as an item to get richer from though?

Not so groovy but one of my old faves all the same, classic May

If you want transparency, choose the Mxr. The Cali76cb if you play a low B string occasionaly (it has a hpf that keeps the comp from squashing lows) If you want aggressive slap punch, get the Aguilar. It is awesome for that. If you want buttery sweetness, the diamond or supersymmetry. Digital compressors? Stay away from those.

It's all alimentary to me.

And still nobody mentions the improvement in sound quality when you've ditched the amps. re:drums just for anybody interested, acoustic drums are still the preference for any drummer. A drummer that turns up to a pub gig with a huge kit and super bright and loud cymbals is the local village idiot. In terms of micing, for pub gigs a lot of the time you'll just need kick. For larger venues, you can successfully mic with two mics. I personally never mic the snare directly unless I am micing the whole kit. On a two mic setup, i would choose to mic the kick drum and a single condenser mic on a high stand behind the drummers right shoulder, pointing directly across the kit at the snare. (Assuming drummer plays right handed). This way it'll get a good coverage of the kit, (hi hats and splash included) not just the snare. It sounds great in the inears also - if you are using them. PS - entry level wired inear monitoring can be achieved for way under 100 quid per person for somebody using ME6s. For something a lot better, for a 200 quid setup, consider something like UE900s. Read about it in the inear monitoring thead if you are interested. Also, check out the inear recording I put up in there and ask yourself if that isn't something you'd like on a gig. That level of monitoring is now affordable even in a pub band given the pricing of digital desks now. Link - Theres always going to be dinosaurs stuck in their ways. Tech has moved on. Not too long ago, PA that would take a full band going through them was prohibitively expensive. This isn't the case now as the tech is becoming a lot more affordable. Whether people choose to embrace it or not is another thing. I'm convinced that the amp route is on borrowed time now... but that's just me. I like an amp like the next guy... but the convienience of a PA doing all the work, the better monitoring that it opens up, wins it for me hands down. I don't care if people want to go the same route as me or not - I just like to correct statements that suggest a route like that is prohibitively expensive. You only have to read through the IEM thread to see what a revelation it has been for the people that have made the switch. And to be honest, you don't even have to go with IEMs... a serious wedge with your own mix of the whole band in it, with the foh doing all the real work, is another great option. The crazy thing is, nobody batts an eyelid about paying crazy money for backline but if I said the best sound you'll ever have is if you changed your say, 1000 quid boutique cab for a 1000 quid monitor that has both you and the band going through it, most people would not be interested... Not saying my opinion is worth more than anybody else's - but I've done both routes in anger. My IEMs for example, cost more than most peoples complete backline... but that's how much I have been sold on the alternative method of getting a band sounding the best it can both in my ears and out front. The other thing is, my sound is consistent in every venue and I can hear exactly what I want. When I was at the drum show, I was having a similar convo with a drummer whilst at the IEM stand. If you were on a gig with IEMs, you can hear everything you want to hear at a volume you want to hear them. Percussion on a gig? Great! I want to hear that shaker and Indian bells they got going on. Chances of enjoying that on stage without IEMs? Zero. You'll be lucky to hear anything over the drummer. Anyway, the point is, is that this stuff is now available to all - whether it's on a stadium gig or a pub gig. - and I guarantee your audience will appreciate the band more if they can hear everything clearly through the PA. A decent PA yields better high frequency horns too - so getting your vocalist heard over the band is easier... and that is further cemented that the quieter band sound on stage means less bleed into the mics. As I say, Dinos can be Dinos for all I care... but it's interesting to see all these old guys advocating that nothing but an amp would do are all deaf and wired up with hearing aids... but each to their own.

To add some scale to ped's picture, here it is next to a pile of pound coins...

Without having heard them, I'm going to guess that what you're hearing is really just the tonal difference between a Jazz bass with (presumably) active pickups and a passive Precision. Ballsy and punchy means different things to different people, but a Jazz bass normally has a sharper attack than a Precision, and with EMG's that difference should be even clearer. It makes sense that your Jazz seems a bit deeper, too. Do you usually play with both pickups turned up? This scoops a lot of the mids out of the sound, leaving more room, so to speak, for the lows. With the bridge pickup solo'd, you're getting mostly a lot of (very) high mids. As a contrast, the Precision is quite heavy on the low mids. To me, a Precision is punchier than a Jazz, but that's because I define punchy as having a beefy, prominent midrange.

Hi Andy, I am also pretty close to Ilford and am happy to be a back up option to ratman.

We had an arrangement.

The signature instrument is a marketing invention and has nothing to do with respect, musical integrity or any catalogues. There is only one question, "Is this guy popular enough to sell lots of basses if we put his name on them". Yes, gets a signature bass. No, doesn't.

I’ve had a reply from Nathan Navarro of Source Audio: Apparently the LED not always moving on is normal. The locking up thing is a bug and one which he was able to replicate on their gear so he’s passed it to the engineers and hopefully there’ll be a bug fix. It basically happens if you cycle quickly through the “option” button. @CameronJ, @GisserD, @Al Krow, @BNB71

Its an interesting thread. I would have thought a famous player who "Modified" an instrument to suit their own needs would be the one to get a "Signature" instrument. Or why bother? If its not very different from the standard model then why make a signature? Clapton got one because he didnt use his Strat trem, removed the springs and replaced them with a block of wood.

Great thread! Always loved the professionals and remember a funk band covering it somewhere around the early 90's. Here's one of my fave's - Space 1999! Such an epic intro, then funky as F***!

To be fair it's about equal of a 'crime'... someone buying legitimately to sell on for profit with the use of the OP's pictures without consent Vs someone trying to contact the seller to buy the bass knowing the auction has ended and been won by someone else. The only way I suppose you might have the morale high ground is if you did manage to get the bass you'd need to never sell it for a single penny more than you paid for it even years down the line, else you run the risk of falling into the hypocrite category! I suppose the REAL morale high ground would be yours had you of informed the seller about their bargain price and offered to pay him a sum more in line with current prices... Interesting debate though...

Im in the Kemper camp and it's pretty much on every gig with me... but having spent a lot of time with both of them, I'd be happy with either. They are stunning pieces of kit.

Doesn't the fact that this discussion is taking place 50 odd years down the road sorta prove a point?

DR Hi Beams or Roto Steels most likely.

Here you go matey

In all fairness, the vast majority of what you call "classical" music is far and away more sophisticated and technically interesting than almost all pop/rock music - including prog, jazz/funk, whatever. Whether that makes it superior is an entirely different and fruitless debate

As the owner of several of his 45's. . . . I think he can be!

Beautiful! Looks great.

Sorry can't accept old coins. . . .

You didn't have to bring your infantile sarcasm and insults with you. If you'd left them out you might have gotten somewhere. You are still welcome if you can leave the condescending attitude at home.

Sorry OP, but if you have no knowledge of The Beatles and their legacy then you DO NOT have a well rounded knowledge of music. Those that rubbish Ringo's drumming just show their ignorance.

Yep. I saw one of the concerts on that tour and it literally had 12,000 people on their feet. Not an easy ask for a jazz fusion band. Don't like it? Vote with your wallet. And vive la difference.

Seven.

Indeed they are quite loud and full sounding. I modded mine a bit by taking the badges off the grille (one rattled) and took off the plastic corner protectors. Looks rather neat.

Bass players only need to count to four.

Don’t get me started on trace watts... ?

You don't think it should have been "Heft"? I'll get me coat....

I've done a similar thing many a few times. I buy a bass at a keen price. I clean it up, oil the fingerboard, tighten all the screws, set it up with new strings, and noodle it for awhile, then eventually sell it on at a modest loss. It's easy.

I used to worry incessantly about what bass I was using, what rig I had, was it right for the job, were my strings bright enough etc. I came to realise after playing in 3/4 different bands over the past 4 years that, certainly in my case and situation, it doesn’t matter, and no one cares or notices how my bass sounds. I am about the only person who notices the difference in my rig or bass and most band members can’t really hear a huge difference in a live situation. This is also compounded by the fact that I go through a PA and ‘my sound’ can usually only be heard by me on stage, and everyone out front just gets the dry signal from my DI (pre EQ most of the time) which is set up by the engineer, I don’t normally hear it. Dont get me wrong, I will get a comment when there is too much ‘woolly’ bass or treble in a venue, but as long as I sit in a mix and play the right notes, no one cares if I’m using a Squier Precision, 3k Overwater, Aguilar rig or £250 Ashdown combo. For me it has become quite liberating, no one apart from me and few folks on here or other bass players (I don’t meet many to be fair) give a monkeys about my kit. This means I don’t swap my kit very often apart from out of curiosity, and I free up mental space to play and try and retain 3 bands worth of material in my brain.

The trouble is those tortoises take a long time to grow!

cheapest way, connect your casette deck to the mic input on your computer and use audacity (free) to record it and chop it up how you want

As I've not got much going on today I'll offer a thought. A common analogy for music is often that it is like a language. So, say someone is speaking Chinese and you don't understand it, does that make it nonsense? Of course not, if you learnt Chinese you would probably understand it. It can be argued that it is the same with music. If you learnt and enjoyed jazz vocabulary that is similar to those that influenced Jaco, the chances are you will then enjoy it because you can relate to it.

Gorgeous basses..every time I pick up my ACG I am stunned...lucky man Eude.

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1504877869' post='3367987'] I think this would look really nice with that piece of quilted Ebony you have - IMO it would compliment the light body beautifully... [/quote] The quilted ebony is designated for Tim's - and as I think I've got the only piece in the world, don't suppose I'll get any more But I'm a happy enough chappy - I think, with the way the camphor will darken, this will look pretty good with the snakewood