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Some VERY good news at last - live music back by the Spring?

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1 hour ago, fleabag said:

Found this on a pal's FB page

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Think a lot of bands will be playing for nothing in pubs and clubs for a while. The pub / hospitality industry has been one of the sectors hardest hit by the Pandemic, and I don't see many bands getting much in the way of gig earnings after June (if things get better). 

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1 minute ago, louisthebass said:

Think a lot of bands will be playing for nothing in pubs and clubs for a while. The pub / hospitality industry has been one of the sectors hardest hit by the Pandemic, and I don't see many bands getting much in the way of gig earnings after June (if things get better). 

There could well be some truth in that, certainly for a few months while pubs get back on their feet. The bigger chains are tapping shareholders for cash but obviously smaller pub operators aren't in a position to do that.

I suspect that there are going to be a lot of weddings - all those postponed as well as the ones planned for this year, which will likely be paying as much as they have always done. 

And it's clear that the demand for live music hasn't gone away! Festivals selling out after map to end England's lockdown announced | Festivals | The Guardian

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1 minute ago, Al Krow said:

There could well be some truth in that, certainly for a few months while pubs get back on their feet. The bigger chains are tapping shareholders for cash but obviously smaller pub operators aren't in a position to do that.

I suspect that there are going to be a lot of weddings - all those postponed as well as the ones planned for this year, which will likely be paying as much as they have always done. 

And it's clear that the demand for live music hasn't gone away! Festivals selling out after map to end England's lockdown announced | Festivals | The Guardian

Yep, think the function bands doing weddings will still be ok financially. I've seen a pub in Surrey advertising for bands on Facebook in the last 48 hours wanting bands, and I've got my first gig since January last year in July. Will be nice to get out and play with other people again...

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Yep, think covers bands in pubs will be hardest hit by this. Gigs on the originals circuit I’m sure will flourish as people will be itching to get back and see their fave bands - I know I’ll be at a good few once it’s safe to do so.

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We will be getting our full fee for our pub gigs.

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Will weddings be full on with bands?

if people are cash strapped and have to scale back, maybe they will just pay a DJ or run a Spotify list through their phones?

I hope they would still like a band

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2 hours ago, Lozz196 said:

Yep, think covers bands in pubs will be hardest hit by this. Gigs on the originals circuit I’m sure will flourish as people will be itching to get back and see their fave bands - I know I’ll be at a good few once it’s safe to do so.

I'm not so sure. There are lots of people who are sick of watching Netflicks and are itching to be in a pub with other humans. It could well be like 100 years ago after the Spanish Flu, when people flocked to live entertainment throughout the twenties. The massive demand for the festivals being announced seems to suggest that this is possible. Against that, you have pubs and other venues closing down and the real possibility of a long period of flirting with recession. The truth is that no one really knows how it will pan out. I suspect that there may well be a downward pressure of fees for bands, even if there are gigs going ahead.

I was reasonably optimistic when they announced a pretty sensible roadmap of easing the pandemic restrictions following a vaccination programme that seems to be working out pretty well. But the idea of large-scale festivals with tens of thousands of punters going ahead in the summer is a case of much too much, much too soon. I’m hearing rumours of these festivals having potentially serious issues with getting insurance. I saw something on Facebook that said, ‘we’re going from two people staying six feet away from each to six people sharing a two man tent, sharing some dodgy coke they’ve just bought from a complete stranger’. For me, such large scale events should be at least a year away, when we have more idea of what the long term rates of infection are and have a better idea of what the ‘new normal’ will look like.

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My pal has just booked our band for his sons wedding in August 2022 !!

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Festivals always do well in terms of ticket sales so seeing various festivals ’selling out’ isn’t really a surprise or at least it isn’t to me. Most of the big ones sell out in a matter of hours as it’s become a summer institution to ‘do’ a festival. It’s a positive sign as it means folks aren’t afraid to get back out and socialise. Whether that means another wave by August or September let’s hope not!
 

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1 hour ago, krispn said:

Festivals always do well in terms of ticket sales so seeing various festivals ’selling out’ isn’t really a surprise or at least it isn’t to me. Most of the big ones sell out in a matter of hours as it’s become a summer institution to ‘do’ a festival. It’s a positive sign as it means folks aren’t afraid to get back out and socialise. Whether that means another wave by August or September let’s hope not!

Yes bang on the money on all of that.

But with all the most-vulnerable groups vaccinated (or at least those willing to be vaccinated) within the next three months and a target date of 31 July for all UK adults, combined with MUCH lower susceptibility and/or likely herd immunity amongst the younger members of society, we can start to be quietly confident (with the science to underpin things) that we won't have another national lockdown in 2021 after June 21st; and that Covid-19 mortality rates won't be not any significantly worse than the 'flu in the second half of the year and something that we learn to live with and we all start getting on with our lives again. 

For the sake of the nation's kids, let's hope that is exactly how it turns out.

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I have an uneasy feeling that we're seeing a 'herd immunity' experiment here -

not being 'glass half empty' , it's all too soon but they can't afford to watch

the economy totally tank.............

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1 minute ago, taunton-hobbit said:

I have an uneasy feeling that we're seeing a 'herd immunity' experiment here -

not being 'glass half empty' , it's all too soon but they can't afford to watch

the economy totally tank.............

😎

Careful there and steady on dear chap, you may get told off for ruining the first bit of good weather we have had for a while 

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Question from the empty tankard man to the half full brigade.

It is good news about festivals so, are you going to attend the festivals?

If festivals aren’t your thing (which is fine) if your kids/nieces/nephews or parents/grandparents expressed an interest in going would you be slightly perturbed and worried or think - nah it’s sweet as a nut, crack on?

I am happy to say I am not a festival man and even before Covid I wouldn’t be massively happy for my kids to go but wouldn’t stop them, I would just worry from afar.....

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1 hour ago, Cuzzie said:

It is good news about festivals so, are you going to attend the festivals?

Who knows! But our singer was meant to be getting married at the last Rebellion,so if it goes ahead this year we'll all be there as bridesmaids.

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Ah so it’s on for this year then, did wonder if they’d gone ahead and done the deed or were going to wait til the next Rebellion.

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2 hours ago, taunton-hobbit said:

I have an uneasy feeling that we're seeing a 'herd immunity' experiment here -

not being 'glass half empty' , it's all too soon but they can't afford to watch

the economy totally tank.............

😎

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/26/perspectives/covid-variants-global-vaccination/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_content=2021-02-26T21%3A46%3A04&utm_source=twCNNi&utm_term=link
 

Ultimately until the planet is vaccinated none of us are safe.

Cant afford to have a geographically limited view.

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2 hours ago, Cuzzie said:

Question from the empty tankard man to the half full brigade.

It is good news about festivals so, are you going to attend the festivals?

If festivals aren’t your thing (which is fine) if your kids/nieces/nephews or parents/grandparents expressed an interest in going would you be slightly perturbed and worried or think - nah it’s sweet as a nut, crack on?

I am happy to say I am not a festival man and even before Covid I wouldn’t be massively happy for my kids to go but wouldn’t stop them, I would just worry from afar.....

As the old saying goes.... I play jazz because I don’t like crowds!

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I think the wedding industry will take some time to recover from the pandemic.  Over the last year I have seen friends get married at scaled down ceremonies.  The first couple managed to arrange their wedding in 24 hours, following the lifting of the first lock-down.  There were twenty or so people in the church and the couple sent out for a take-a-way for their "Wedding Breakfast".  All who attended he wedding agreed that it was far more moving and poignant than a large bells and whistles event.

The other couple had a similar ceremony and loved the intimacy of a smaller gathering.  I have heard several people comment that the lock-down has given them time to re-evaluate their lives and priorities.  There will always be those who want a lavish 'do' but don't bank on events (weddings) being the money makers they once were. 

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3 hours ago, LeftyP said:

I think the wedding industry will take some time to recover from the pandemic.  Over the last year I have seen friends get married at scaled down ceremonies. 

I must admit to not understanding the average large scale wedding. I guess I am not from that sort of family.

3 hours ago, LeftyP said:

The other couple had a similar ceremony and loved the intimacy of a smaller gathering.  I have heard several people comment that the lock-down has given them time to re-evaluate their lives and priorities.  There will always be those who want a lavish 'do' but don't bank on events (weddings) being the money makers they once were. 

Mine was just small, we didn't know that many people and didn't want a big fuss. Went to 3 big weddings in the same year as ours, none of them still married - I don't know if there is a correlation with that, just an observation. I would rather spend a lot less on the wedding and a lot more on the stuff afterwards.

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12 hours ago, LeftyP said:

I think the wedding industry will take some time to recover from the pandemic...

I think you are right in general , but those who want a big wedding will still have one and wait a bit .

I know that those who are still working are saving money or spending it on home improvements, I would suspect that those planning a wedding will have a proper blowout and throw even more money at it.

I’m sure they will have to spend more as well, as prices for all sorts of stuff is going through the roof , I expect bands will clock on to to that in due course  and reflect the fact in their fees 

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10 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

Mine was just small, we didn't know that many people and didn't want a big fuss. Went to 3 big weddings in the same year as ours, none of them still married - I don't know if there is a correlation with that, just an observation. ,I would rather spend a lot less on the wedding and a lot more on the stuff afterwards.

Why is a marriage like a tornado?

It starts off with lots of blowing and sucking and ends up with you losing your house.

Classic. 😎

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4 hours ago, odysseus said:

...Classic. 😎

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On 26/02/2021 at 21:23, Woodinblack said:

Honestly after being locked down for a year, people would even go to a jazz festival. Well, once!

Don't push it!

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