CJPJ Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 We play a version of this classic Bon Jovi track and I'd like to experiment giving my bass line that wa-wa sound. I know the original was the guitar going through a talkbox (as per the YT clipbelow) but I wanted to play about with it and see if I could split my bass signal, maybe octave it up, and have this sound running in the background??! Any thoughts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tayste_2000 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Wah pedal 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) Do formant filter Wah pedals exist? Ooh, the EHX Talking Machine: https://www.ehx.com/products/stereo-talking-machine/ Edited October 2, 2022 by bartelby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 https://www.premierguitar.com/news/audiospektri-pgv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 @Quatschmacher could the Source Audio C4 do something like this? I would check mine, but I have loaned it to someone! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Why isn't the guitarist doing this with a talkbox? This is such an integral part of the sound of the song that if you can't get it spot on right it you might as well not bother. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPJ Posted October 3, 2022 Author Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, BigRedX said: Why isn't the guitarist doing this with a talkbox? This is such an integral part of the sound of the song that if you can't get it spot on right it you might as well not bother. Fair. I’ve asked but he’s not stepping up 🙄. We are playing an interpretation rather than a faithful cover so I only wanted to nod to the original which is why I was thinking I could just echo the bass line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, CJPJ said: Fair. I’ve asked but he’s not stepping up 🙄. We are playing an interpretation rather than a faithful cover so I only wanted to nod to the original which is why I was thinking I could just echo the bass line https://www.sourceaudio.net/featured-neuro-preset-gallery/featured-neuro-artist-621-thehook about halfway down, D funky and toothy twins gives you the ball park 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 hours ago, BigRedX said: Why isn't the guitarist doing this with a talkbox? This is such an integral part of the sound of the song that if you can't get it spot on right it you might as well not bother. This definitely. I’ve played this song live more times than I care to remember in various different outfits. Current bands: Jovi tribute do it with talk box on guitar and it’s ace. Cover band also do it on guitar but with a pedal effect - good, but not great. Obviously I don’t know what it’s going to sound like with your suggestion, but I’d have to get guitarist to step up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxelF Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I've had to play this a couple of times and use a patch on my C4 with expression pedal controlling the mix - it works really well as you can fade it in and out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 MXR Bass Envelope Filter always reminded me of this tone. Closest you’ll get with a standard filter if you don’t want to go down the Source Audio route. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafbass02 Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 I tried the talker on my zoom b9, but it just sounded better without tbh Lost too much low end 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 Clothes peg on your nose and just sing it into a normal microphone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 17 hours ago, dannybuoy said: MXR Bass Envelope Filter always reminded me of this tone. Closest you’ll get with a standard filter if you don’t want to go down the Source Audio route. Hey DB! You'd not recommend the Digitech BSW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 On 05/10/2022 at 18:59, Al Krow said: Hey DB! You'd not recommend the Digitech BSW? Been a while since I played one, but maybe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 The Digitech Synth Wah, both guitar or bass versions, will get a very acceptable approximation. However I'd echo what others already said: get the guitarist to do that. It seems a bit silly that he won't. If the bass ends up doing that you need a way to blend a clean bass too so that you don't lose that pumping bass line. I like the idea of using the C4 with an expression pedal blend the talkbox effect in/out. But really... why is the guitarist not doing it? It'd be the best and cheapest solution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I used to use an EHX Bass Balls to cover the vocoder bit in Mr Blue Sky - it's got a gurgly, vowel-like envelope so might work for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPJ Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: I used to use an EHX Bass Balls to cover the vocoder bit in Mr Blue Sky - it's got a gurgly, vowel-like envelope so might work for you. Interesting - used to have one of those. Might give it a try as it’s a great pedal to have in the line up anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 If you want to do it on the bass then crack on I say. What could be more fun? There's a boss filter with vowel sounds and a bloody great heavy thing I used to have would talk to you . Can't remember it's name so I'm not much help. But I love the creativity in your idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 25/10/2022 at 22:24, stewblack said: If you want to do it on the bass then crack on I say. What could be more fun? There's a boss filter with vowel sounds and a bloody great heavy thing I used to have would talk to you . Can't remember it's name so I'm not much help. But I love the creativity in your idea. I used to have a multi fx and the wah options included 'ooh' and 'aah'. The 'ooh' worked perfectly for Living on a Prayer. Also can't remember which one 😟 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPJ Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, MacDaddy said: I used to have a multi fx and the wah options included 'ooh' and 'aah'. The 'ooh' worked perfectly for Living on a Prayer. Also can't remember which one 😟 Helpful, thanks 🤪🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) Edited October 31, 2022 by PaulThePlug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 25/10/2022 at 22:24, stewblack said: … and a bloody great heavy thing I used to have would talk to you … That’s no way to speak about the missus! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 On 13/10/2022 at 01:53, Cosmo Valdemar said: I used to use an EHX Bass Balls to cover the vocoder bit in Mr Blue Sky - it's got a gurgly, vowel-like envelope so might work for you. The bass balls has a couple of trimpots inside to adjust the range and resonance of the effect, but the mooer bass sweeper is the same thing, but has a couple of extra knobs for these parameters, so that might be an option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJPJ Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 I’ve got a Bassballs on the way and have an offer of a Talkbox from a BC’er. I’m going to try the EHX first (maybe combining with a light distortion/synth/fuzz) before investing in something more complicated and expensive. Ironically we have gig tomorrow night (Teddington Beer Festival) and we’ve dropped this song from the listing as we didn’t feel it was ready! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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