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12 hours ago, Velarian said:

I wonder what sort of protection he’s expecting the hard hat to provide?

 

Jackson?? Are you making Nuclear fusion in your bedroom again? I told you to stop that. Can't you go out and play with your friends? And take that stupid hard hat off right now!

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All very well, but she'd be useless loading the van at the end of the night... 😁

 

I do love watching kids play, even better if they're a band; as I mentioned in another thread, we gigged at a local bar and the (trio) band on before us were 14, 15 and 16...they were a joy to watch... 🙂

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2 hours ago, MacDaddy said:

I disagree with the 'i could never play like that' sentiment.

If you were willing to practice 6 hours a day, and knew what to practice, in a year's time you'd be pretty close (figures may vary for the individual).

 

At the age of 67, I can confidently say I'll never be able to play like that, no matter what I do. It warms the cockles of my crusty old heart to see them do it, but I am a realist.

 

Related to that, I see there have been a couple of comments along the lines of "those youngsters are technically brilliant, but robotic/have no soul", which seems a defensive reaction. It's as if some feel threatened by their ability. The obvious response is that, yes, they may be mainly about technique at the age of 15, but by the time they're 21 or so and have learned and listened more, they're going to be outstanding in every respect.

 

Sometimes, we have to accept that life isn't fair and that ability is inherent as well as worked for. Some people are just better equipped for certain things than others. They have to put the effort in, of course, but their mix of physical and intellectual attributes gives them a head start and means they can take it further. 

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16 hours ago, steantval said:

 

I remember many years ago when I was playing second guitar in a band 

  

Second Guitar in a band?

Surely there are specialised forums with like minded people where you can indulge in activities like that? Personally, I think historic behaviour like that should be kept a secret.**

 

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I could post a video of the guitarist I've started playing with recently, made when he was 14 he's ripping through a live version of Parisian Walkways. He's in his early twenties now.

 

There's definitely no shortage of feel or ability to play well with others, and great knowledge of the blues.

 

Jimmy Page was on BBC1 at 13 and went pro at 15.

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10 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

I could post a video of the guitarist I've started playing with recently, made when he was 14 he's ripping through a live version of Parisian Walkways. He's in his early twenties now.

 

There's definitely no shortage of feel or ability to play well with others, and great knowledge of the blues.

 

Jimmy Page was on BBC1 at 13 and went pro at 15.

 

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Vim Fuego : I could play "Stairway To Heaven" when I was 12. Jimmy Page didn't actually write it until he was 22. I think that says quite a lot.

 

 

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It's great to see youngsters taking an interest in something and pursuing it. I don't care what it is, so long as it's something. Most people now don't pick up anything - whether that's an instrument, playing chess or a sport, photography, astronomy, bird watching... Instead, the majority are glued to various electronic devices and that's about it.

 

There have always been youngsters who are good at things. My younger nephew was very proficient on guitar and trumpet in his early to mid teens, but it stopped when he went to uni. I suspect, like many, he will go back to them when he's somewhat older (he's mid-20s now). When I was at school we had plenty of people who were grade 8 on various instrument - violin, cello, French horn, bassoon, oboe, classical guitar...

 

As long as they enjoy it and are doing it because they want to, rather than hot house parenting 

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Shredding videos are just that. Technique show off pieces. They are not how players play when they are in a band or playing an ensemble piece. People who are this good know what fits in and where.

 

Listen to Victor Wooten playing with Bela Fleck and Keb Mo and you'll hear all the right notes in all the right places.

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3 hours ago, Dan Dare said:

 

At the age of 67, I can confidently say I'll never be able to play like that, no matter what I do. It warms the cockles of my crusty old heart to see them do it, but I am a realist.

 

Related to that, I see there have been a couple of comments along the lines of "those youngsters are technically brilliant, but robotic/have no soul", which seems a defensive reaction. It's as if some feel threatened by their ability. The obvious response is that, yes, they may be mainly about technique at the age of 15, but by the time they're 21 or so and have learned and listened more, they're going to be outstanding in every respect.

 

Sometimes, we have to accept that life isn't fair and that ability is inherent as well as worked for. Some people are just better equipped for certain things than others. They have to put the effort in, of course, but their mix of physical and intellectual attributes gives them a head start and means they can take it further. 

I'm one of those who suggested that, but you would be barking up the wrong tree if you believe that it was in any way a "defensive reaction". The purpose of the post, given the OP and subsequent comments, was to remind that there is a lot more to music than perfect chops, and people should not feel so defeated. 

At the end of the day, it's not about how good you are, but about how much you enjoy making music. It's not a competition. 
 

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20 minutes ago, TheLowDown said:

The purpose of the post, given the OP and subsequent comments, was to remind that there is a lot more to music than perfect chops, and people should not feel so defeated. 

 

:) Speaking as the OP who titled the thread 'OK you can all give up the bass and go home now' I would like to confirm that this was intended as a joke, a plaisenterie, or, in a sense, a gag. Had I thought that anyone might take this suggestion seriously I might have entitled the thread 'They handed an 9-year old a bass and you'll never guess what happened next' but then again, I'd probably have left it as it is.

 

I think I speak for many when I say I do not feel 'defeated' by displays of precocious talent though I allow that excessively sensitive people might view these vids, hoist the white flag and sell off all their gear, but that's for them to deal with.

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There are some super talented kids around for sure, some of the YouTube vids are mind blowing. Must admit though, some of the super fast, honky bridge pickup noodling leaves me a bit cold, a bit like watching those ‘Got bass chops?’ videos. Not meaning to take anything away from the players, they’re far more talented than me, it just all sounds a bit the same to my, admittedly cloth, ears. 

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On 03/11/2021 at 18:56, skankdelvar said:

 

Well that's just terrifying.

 

Technically brilliant, effectively unlistenable.

 

"Let me show you how fast I can play lots and lots of notes over weird chord changes and bizarre time signatures."

 

I'd genuinely love to hear the same kid playing a proper bass groove. I reckon he'd not only be brilliant at it, but also a great deal more musical.

 

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19 hours ago, lowdown said:

  

Second Guitar in a band?

Surely there are specialised forums with like minded people where you can indulge in activities like that? Personally, I think historic behaviour like that should be kept a secret.**

 

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I think the term I used to describe myself in the day, was rhythm guitarist, I was never really good enough to be lead guitarist, far too many notes to remember in solos.

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On 04/11/2021 at 08:27, tegs07 said:

I see the sun is smiling on your morning mug of compassion today!

Kid looked overjoyed and made me smile. If her talent makes her and her friends and family happy that’s doing plenty.

Well quite, but if its all about friends and family why bother posting it on social media? If I had a quid for every "Wonderkid" that's been touted as the muts nuts I would have a few quid. As has been said, music is not a competition, and age has nowt to do with it.

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