Uncle Rodney Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) It's something we encounter in bands, however as I've grown older and been on both sides of this situation, I maintain, "be nice". Here's the current situation, I will use alias' so not to reveal anything personal. Band member A thinks band member B isn't good enough, insisting B has to go. Interestingly A has "found" a replacement in C showing us videos of their performance selling C to us. The current band plan is to auditon C without telling B about it. This leaves me feeling bad because B now becomes treated differently in online chats, as if he has an infectious disease. The band plans to try out C in the new year, so that's 6 weeks B is frozen out. I've already said - so we get C onboard, a few weeks later he announces his "other band is getting busy so needs to leave" - Obviously B has now gone with no replacement. The band stalls. C will leave if he thinks the band isn't good enough anyway. Personally I don't think A is that good. I had a quiet moment with B before this situation arose and B has said A isn't that good. Any ideas? I need to be nice to everyone, bands should be enjoyable, it's the bitching that makes it all sour. I suspect B has "a lot on his plate" and doesn't need anymore 💩- so I'm wondering if to phone him for a quiet update, he could then tell the band "sorry guys, I have a lot of 💩on my plate and need to drop out" it's better the exit is done by B rather than be "fired". Edited 1 hour ago by Uncle Rodney Quote
Hellzero Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Why don't you fire the trouble maker instead, so A, as he isn't as good as he thinks he is, which is way too frequent... 2 Quote
martthebass Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago With friends like this who needs enemies mate. Personally I'd call it a day as these situations have a tendency to implode or at a minimum leave a sour taste in the mouth going forward. 3 Quote
Steve Browning Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Indeed. It could be your turn next. I would guess that most of us have experienced both sides of this particular coin. If A isn't that good then the band is unlikely to improve overall. I'd consider your own situation carefully. Quote
fretmeister Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago Options: 1: Fire A for the same reasons he has about other people. Replace him. 2: Leave the toxic environment completely, but throw that grenade on the way out - "I am leaving the band. I cannot believe A is secretly plotting to bin B and even set up an audition for C. That's is appalling. A band should be like a marriage - if it's not working you end it. Not try out a side piece first" 3: Seduce A's partner. (Seems to be a rule). 2 Quote
Boodang Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago If the band has stalled, start a new band with 'B'? 1 Quote
Lozz196 Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago It all sounds much like our current and previous governments......... 3 Quote
Happy Jack Posted 51 minutes ago Posted 51 minutes ago Never been in this precise situation but I've been close enough (several times) that you could see it from here. In all of my experience, removal/replacement of any band member is only acceptable is everyone is on board right from the start. If everyone in your anonymous band agrees that 'B' has to go, then he has to go. If it's just 'A' who's pushing for it, then all the non-B members need to go to the pub and have a chat with Frank and Ernest. Quote
cetera Posted 36 minutes ago Posted 36 minutes ago Been there. Trust noone.... Do what's right for you, because you can be sure that the rest of them won't care if it were you who was up for the chop. Quote
SumOne Posted 10 minutes ago Posted 10 minutes ago Someone who plays what is right for the band as a team-player (i.e. perhaps some 'easy' subtle rhythm chords are better than a 'difficult' ear-splitting guitar solo), plays within their limits, spends the time learning the songs and being at rehearsals and is reliable for gigs (and helpful for setup etc) and is a decent person to be around are what are probably more important than technical ability. ....at least that is the case for the weekend warrior type stuff I do. I've been in bands that have been tempted by a technically better guitarist, but it turns out that their big guitar solos aren't really enjoyed by many and often don't serve the song as well as something more low-key, and things like them not haivng a car and always needing lifts is a bit of a faff, and that they only turn up to occasional rehearsals is not great for the band as a whole. In the end we'd be better of with the less technically gifted player. Quote
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