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Shaky ground. Which of these bassline interpretations do you prefer?

solo4652

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Wombat Mentor

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Aye, whenever I’ve played that I’ve gone with one. The ‘space’ makes the song. That’s not saying there isn’t room for a few licks though!

Phil Starr Grand Master

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What a great problem to have :) It's made my morning just listening to my favourite version; the Phoebe Snow one. I haven't heard it for years but it was a favourite of mine as a mobile DJ back in the 70's  I guess my approach would be to learn a very basic version probably like the first one then take that to rehearsal and listen to what the singer does with the song and just let it grow. I want to see the rest of your set list now :)

 

 

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Len_derby Grand Master

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My advice would be to not invest too much time in learning a particular arrangement until you know how the rest of the band play it. Of course, you may know that already. Several times I’ve learned the bass line for a song only to have to change it because it doesn’t work with how the band play it. For example, drummer can’t or won’t play it as recorded or guitarist plays ‘different’ chords.

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Beedster Grand Master

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2 hours ago, ped said:

First one. Funk is the space in between the notes. I’d still be tempted to pop some of the octaves though!

100% this, the other two are way too showy 👍

franzbassist Grand Master

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21 minutes ago, Paul S said:

Here's another stripped back bass but with a rockier feel - Bernie Marsden's cover.

I was going to suggest this one too, so here's Bernie's BBC Friday Rock Show version as well:
 

 

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peteb Grand Master

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5 hours ago, solo4652 said:

Got to learn this song. Loads of covers out there. Here are three bass covers. Which do you prefer? Just talking about the bass playing, not the singing or arrangement or anything else. Clear winner for me.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_FabfGxYvM

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE16Dc2JB3s

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWFKio5NBV8

 

 

Out of those three, definitely the first one - the other two are all the place! 

 

I've never heard the Bernie Marsden version before, but that's pretty close to what I've always played whenever I've had to do SG over the years. 

 

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Terry M. Mentor

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I liked them all but found the 2nd link a little more exciting than the others. I appreciate thumpin and plucking (the original term for the technique) isn't for everybody but I'm not sure it's fair to call it stupid. 

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EMG456 Rising Star

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2 hours ago, Terry M. said:

I liked them all but found the 2nd link a little more exciting than the others. I appreciate thumpin and plucking (the original term for the technique) isn't for everybody but I'm not sure it's fair to call it stupid. 

 

 

 Aye! Welcome to Basschat!

 

My thoughts:

 

#1     I would die of boredom if I had to play exactly what that guy played throughout the entire song. He's playing it like a midi sequencer backing track! To be fair, his transcription is the sort of part you might be given on a dep gig so it's a good starting point to go from.

 

#2     It's her band and a vehicle for whatever she wants it to be so she calls the shots. I liked it and on the subject of funky spaces, note that she tones it down for the singing ( that might well be for "technical reasons") and she also has whole measures where the bass completely drops out.

 

#3     Err... No.

 

I liked the Bernie Marsden version - a few bits of four on the floor dropped in amongst the funk - very Climax Blues Band.

 

Delbert McClinton- nice.

 

The original Temptations version - now we are talking! He's *playing* it from the heart, not just  reproducing a part and you can hear that in it.

Also ironically, unless I'm very much mistaken,  the first bass you hear in the track comes in at the end of the fourth bar just before the drums and is entirely a slap/pop part. The main foundation part also uses a pop on the Octave E hammer-on albeit the tone is much more Chuck Rainey than Marcus Miller.

 

Baack to sleep now.

Terry M. Mentor

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9 minutes ago, EMG456 said:

 

 

 Aye! Welcome to Basschat!

 

My thoughts:

 

#1     I would die of boredom if I had to play exactly what that guy played throughout the entire song. He's playing it like a midi sequencer backing track! To be fair, his transcription is the sort of part you might be given on a dep gig so it's a good starting point to go from.

 

#2     It's her band and a vehicle for whatever she wants it to be so she calls the shots. I liked it and on the subject of funky spaces, note that she tones it down for the singing ( that might well be for "technical reasons") and she also has whole measures where the bass completely drops out.

 

#3     Err... No.

 

I liked the Bernie Marsden version - a few bits of four on the floor dropped in amongst the funk - very Climax Blues Band.

 

Delbert McClinton- nice.

 

The original Temptations version - now we are talking! He's *playing* it from the heart, not just  reproducing a part and you can hear that in it.

Also ironically, unless I'm very much mistaken,  the first bass you hear in the track comes in at the end of the fourth bar just before the drums and is entirely a slap/pop part. The main foundation part also uses a pop on the Octave E hammer-on albeit the tone is much more Chuck Rainey than Marcus Miller.

 

Baack to sleep now.

This is a fair analysis. I liked the 3rd YouTube link but can objectively see how it won't appeal to everybody. It's number 2 for me of the 3 and your take on it is pretty accurate to me. Number 1,while it appealed to several individuals on here and was played well,just didn't excite me. And yes ironically there is a slap/pop section on the original 😊

Woodinblack Grand Master

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3 hours ago, Terry M. said:

I liked them all but found the 2nd link a little more exciting than the others. I appreciate thumpin and plucking (the original term for the technique) isn't for everybody but I'm not sure it's fair to call it stupid. 

 

I wouldn't have called it stupid, it was clever and required skill although I found it dull to the point of wanting the song to start, actually less exciting than the first one, (which wasn't exciting at all, but more fitting). It was good for a bass demo, but not good for a song.

The 3rd one sounded like you had just attended a bass guitar expo..

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Bass4real Collaborator

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Never heard the song before a minute ago Rebecca J. sounded good.

A great jazz /blues / rBass player and a good friend of my family and he was hired to be the producer for the THRASH band I was in in the 90s             i thought he toured with the temptations a few times but he toured with the 3 degrees.

For being a jazz/blues/r&b bassist

I wasn't worried about getting buried in the mix 

Bennie Sims did that THRASH band right

The release titled  DISRESPECT has been released in a few countries and is still selling 30 yrs later 

Not many though : ?)

 

Have a good one 

C.C.

 

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Terry M. Mentor

Terry M.

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10 hours ago, Woodinblack said:

 

I wouldn't have called it stupid, it was clever and required skill

Agreed. It does require a particular skill which as stated previously won't be for everybody. Calling it stupid however...well...

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