Barking Spiders Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) If the Merkans hadn't come up with the RNRHOF I don't think it would've been invented in the UK. It seems to go against the very spirit of what r n'r was about i.e. kicking back against authority etc. Anyway. it's that time of year again and here are the noms should you so wish... https://vote.rockhall.com/ The only two I agree with are Eric B and Rakim and A Tribe Called Quest, these being two of the pioneering groups in hip hop /rap. As for the others.. Sinead O'Connor - really only known for having one big hit Oasis - if making a career out of plagiarism is noteworthy then yes, good call. Cher - 'pioneered' the use of autotune and errm.... Dave Matthews Band - yes, they've really changed the course of rock n' roll haven't they? Lenny Kravtiz - admittedly has made a career out of taking lack of originality to a new level Peter Frampton - is having one big selling album from the 70s enuff? Kool ATG - I like their pre-disco stuff but they were never at the cutting edge of funk, not like JB, Sly ATFS etc Foreigner - ?????????????????????????????????????????? Mary J Blige - don't know enough about her TBH but she's no Aretha Franklin or Nina Simone Mariah Carey - if you want OTT vocal 'shredding' I guess she's the go-to/GOAT Jane's Addiction - i imagine there'll be much head scratching among many potential voters Ozzy Osbourne - poster boy for making very little talent go a very long way Edited February 28 by Barking Spiders 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetera Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Foreigner should be in. Ozzy maybe. The rest, nope.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 They should try inducting Nick Cave if only for the entertainment value of his response telling them politely to eff off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Ozzy should be in as a solo artist, no question. As should Foreigner. Cher will be voted in at some point, may as well get it out of the way. Some of the others I really like, but I’m not sure it’s their time yet. Maybe Lenny? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Cher has a pretty extensive and credible (even if now unfashionable) history way before the autotune malarkey. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) Music is not competition. It really shouldn't matter who is being inducted into the "Rock n Roll Hall of Fame" and who is not. Ask yourself this... If you had been a moderately successful musician some time in the previous century, and now mostly forgotten, mostly known for a hit or two from 40 years ago, would you not take the opportunity for the publicity and the possibility of reviving your musical career? Edited February 28 by BigRedX 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skybone Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 What does a band being inducted into the "Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame" really mean? Bog all as far as I can see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) It means some rich American clique deemed you worthy of being on their private list where most of your peers are not. So there. The rich Americans approve of both your rocking and your rolling. They might even keep the list in an Excel file. Imagine how proud you would l feel to be named on such a list. Take that, punks, you lost! Edited February 28 by Doctor J 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 6 hours ago, cetera said: Foreigner should be in. Ozzy maybe. The rest, nope.... But how come? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 It's all opinion, innit? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 6 hours ago, Barking Spiders said: If the Merkans hadn't come up with the RNRHOF I don't think it would've been invented in the UK. It seems to go against the very spirit of what r n'r was about i.e. kicking back against authority etc. Anyway. it's that time of year again and here are the noms should you so wish... https://vote.rockhall.com/ The only two I agree with are Eric B and Rakim and A Tribe Called Quest, these being two of the pioneering groups in hip hop /rap. As for the others.. Sinead O'Connor - really only known for having one big hit Oasis - if making a career out of plagiarism is noteworthy then yes, good call. Cher - 'pioneered' the use of autotune and errm.... Dave Matthews Band - yes, they've really changed the course of rock n' roll haven't they? Lenny Kravtiz - admittedly has made a career out of taking lack of originality to a new level Peter Frampton - is having one big selling album from the 70s enuff? Kool ATG - I like their pre-disco stuff but they were never at the cutting edge of funk, not like JB, Sly ATFS etc Foreigner - ?????????????????????????????????????????? Mary J Blige - don't know enough about her TBH but she's no Aretha Franklin or Nina Simone Mariah Carey - if you want OTT vocal 'shredding' I guess she's the go-to/GOAT Jane's Addiction - i imagine there'll be much head scratching among many potential voters Ozzy Osbourne - poster boy for making very little talent go a very long way Must be a few weeks since you last posted a shouty rant against music you don't like! 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steantval Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Peter Frampton was in two well established bands prior to his solo work, The Herd and Humble Pie. His Comes Alive album has achieved 17 million worldwide sales, definitely worthy of a place in the hall of fame. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 (edited) Here's Wiki's full list of inductees year by year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees Can't argue with those inducted between 87 and 89 as these were mostly pioneers and major influences but in each year thereafter ? Edited February 28 by Barking Spiders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted February 28 Author Share Posted February 28 12 minutes ago, Paul S said: Must be a few weeks since you last posted a shouty rant against music you don't like! 😂 So wrong and way off the mark. As the 2024 RNRHOF induction is soon it's a timely post about it. Of those named in my OP I have no strong dislike of any of them. I just can't see what they've done to be nominated. That's not the same thing at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 There’s not much there that I really like - a couple of Oasis & Cher albums aside - but many people really do, those artists have brought a lot of happiness to a great many people. Just not me and many on here it seems. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiram.k.hackenbacker Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Barking Spiders said: Here's Wiki's full list of inductees year by year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees Can't argue with those inducted between 87 and 89 as these were mostly pioneers and major influences but in each year thereafter ? Just to make sure I’ve understood you….you’re saying any artist shown inducted post 1989 is not worthy? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) I cant believe Ozzy isnt already in it. Edit, he was in 2006 with sabbath, so his solo career then...mmm maybe not.. Edited February 28 by skidder652003 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 10 hours ago, cetera said: Foreigner should be in. Ozzy maybe. The rest, nope.... Foreigner were brilliant in their heyday. Great musicians, decent singist, some very good songs, and a range of work that overlapped into so many different styles. It's one of life's great ironies that their most successful single is the least representative of their output (the album was a corker though.) Ozzy deserves to be in, if only because his autobiography is one of the funniest, yet most sadly tragic, books I've ever read. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 (edited) I don't really see the issue with many of them! Oasis - massive over here and pretty much defined the music scene in the late 90s to mid 00s, not as big in the USA but still well known Cher - longevity and a lot of massive, iconic singles Peter Frampton - Humble Pie and big solo career, still massive & influential in the States Kool ATG - big funk act, loads of well known tunes Foreigner - massive band, helped establish AOR as a genre, loads of hits and longevity Mary J Blige - pretty iconic for a while, although it depends where you are setting the bar Mariah Carey - great voice (if a bit OTT), massive hits and a huge star Jane's Addiction - very influential (no JA, probably no RHCP), again depends on where you are set the bar Ozzy Osbourne - can't think of any reason why he isn't in already for his solo career! As @BigRedX says, music is supposed to be an art and I'm not really keen on bringing in this element of it being seen as a competitive sport. I agree that it shouldn't really matter who is being inducted. But if you are going to have such an institution, I've no problem with a few of those candidates. Edited February 29 by peteb 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 9 hours ago, Skybone said: What does a band being inducted into the "Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame" really mean? It means that some bitter, envious people can scream into the void of an internet forum about how dreadfully unfair it is, and how nobody deserves it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 hours ago, Bassfinger said: Foreigner It's one of life's great ironies that their most successful single is the least representative of their output (the album was a corker though.) It was very much 'of it's time' and yes, possibly suffered from over exposure, but I'm going to stand up and face ridicule from the BC community and not care - I Wanna Know What Love Is was an incredible song. Loved it then, still happy to hear it now. Be gentle... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 13 hours ago, Barking Spiders said: So wrong and way off the mark. As the 2024 RNRHOF induction is soon it's a timely post about it. Of those named in my OP I have no strong dislike of any of them. I just can't see what they've done to be nominated. That's not the same thing at all. Actually, since you mention it, it is the same thing. It is yet another example of exactly the same intolerance. Time and again you post about awards/lists/whatever mentioning artists that - as far as you are concerned - have no merit and go off on one about them. You seem to find it impossible to understand that other people may have a different opinion or different taste. Same old same old. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) Of course, the OP will be turning down their invitation to the RNRHOF. In this perpetual race to the bottom they describe, the committee will get round to the OP eventually, right? Edited February 29 by neepheid 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Bit of a confused term anyway really. Mariah Carey? Rock 'n' Roll.. nah I really don't think so. Pop Hall Of Fame, sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 A pat on the back for a successful career in music seems like a good idea to me. If we're taking about pointless things, calling something crap, just because you don't like it, is right up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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