musicbassman Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 So, take a very talented guitarist called Joe Parrish and give him the complete scores for the incredibly complex 'Rite of Spring' by Stravinsky. And then lock him away in a studio for a year or two. And he comes up with something so seemingly impossible you can't believe it. The sheer dedication alone is jaw dropping. And note for note, it's absolutely accurate to the original score. Enjoy. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxelF Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 My, that's a tough listen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 For those unfamiliar with the work, here's a more 'traditional' version... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 14, 2022 by Jus Lukin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Nah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earbrass Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 I went to see a performance of this when I was 15 - my first ever Prom concert. Fabulous stuff. Couldn't stick the guitar version for more than a few minutes. The notes may be "correct" but the feeling and sound textures are nowhere near as rich, subtle and varied as those delivered by the orchestra as scored. Imho, ymmv etc. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 To me, the original piece is a matter of timbre as much anything, which, despite the excellent technicity of the fellow, lacks wholly. I couldn't get far with it. Quite a 'Zappa' approach, and kudos for the enormous work involved, but I prefer the orchestral version, no contest. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodwind Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) I can't take anything away from the ambition and skill. It's a great piece of work, but it comes across as more a technical exercise. Something is missing. Perhaps this is because so much of the incredible texture generated by the required huge and varied orchestra is lost when using just one type of instrument? I had similar reservations about the Music For 18 Musicians release by Erik Hall last year. I'm not a great fan of the Reich piece, but ones whole enjoyment relies on the tension and human quality inherent in having it played in real time and again the fantastic timbral textures involved. Reducing it to multitrack takes of the electric instruments you happen to own defeats the purpose and it becomes another technical exercise. Again I don't have the skill or ambition to accomplish either of these solo recordings, so hats off to Joe and Erik. Edited April 21, 2021 by Woodwind 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, AxelF said: My, that's a tough listen. I'm glad someone else said it first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 More... uh... Stravinsky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpy Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 That’s a lot of trouble to go to demonstrate the worst preset on a 90s Zoom multi fx. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The first performance of The Rite of Spring caused a scandal, and a version for electric guitars etc produces nodding respect. Whither art thou, rock? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) It's brilliantly done but then I don't care for the original version or Stravinsky in general for that matter. As the thread titles suggests it's a nod to djent, which as a genre demands a high level of technical skill but TBH it lacks the other attributes that make music enjoyable for me to listen to e.g. melody. Edited April 21, 2021 by Barking Spiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 The same problem comes up in the opposite direction - here are some classical musicians trying to play Aphex Twin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftybassman392 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) I had to give up on it after about 5 minutes (although I was tempted to pull the plug after 20 seconds). Technically interesting (hence the 'thanks' to the OP) and he's clearly an extremely skillful player, but musically completely soulless IMHO. The point has already been made about the varied tonalities that make up the orchestral version, and that's what this piece is so sorely missing. I don't have any issue with the production: nothing wrong in using common studio techniques IMHO (it undoubtedly offends some ears, just not mine is all). My main criticism is that it has the feel of something that's been done essentially because he can, and with music like this it's just not enough. Sorry. Edited April 21, 2021 by leftybassman392 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Proof that great music is as much about using instruments with the appropriate timbre as it is about playing the right notes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodwind Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ricky Rioli said: The same problem comes up in the opposite direction - here are some classical musicians trying to play Aphex Twin Absolutely. I found the whole alarm will sound Aphex album unlistenable. Again an exercise in transcription without an understanding of what makes the original so successful. Devoid of all soul and counterintuitively lacking a human element. Listening to this again now and it makes me feel a bit ill. Edited April 21, 2021 by Woodwind spelling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 An ideal opportunity to say... Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave moffat Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one but in my a-hole's opinion both versions are sh!t but at least you can tell what Stravinsky was trying to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 8 hours ago, scalpy said: That’s a lot of trouble to go to demonstrate the worst preset on a 90s Zoom multi fx. My thoughts entirely! I can't even begin to think how much effort this took, but the guitar tone is not good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendall Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Allegaeon did a nice job on a Bach Concerto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 A performance of The Rite Of Spring - a ballet which ends with one character dancing themselves to death - should be as exciting as this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sausage Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 When I was at music college in the late 90s we did an arrangement of The Rite and performed it live. Drums, bass, 3 keyboard players, 4 guitarists. Good times. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Sausage Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Only watched a bit. However, from what I watched, the fact that it is all guitars destroys it. No tonal variation makes it sound like clusters of notes. I love Stravinsky and the rite is massive. You need all the different timbres, attacks, decays and how they mix. It's kind of an aggressive soundscape. Obviously the lad who has done it is very talented and it's a lot of hard work. So well done on that level but it's not for me. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxelF Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: My thoughts entirely! I can't even begin to think how much effort this took, but the guitar tone is not good. Obviously should have used his maple neck guitar 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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