fezzza Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Completely fallen in love with KC recently and especially John Wetton's tone and playing on "red", especially providence and one more red nightmare, is this guy seriously underrated or have I been living under a rock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I didn't think he was underrated, I always thought he was well respected for his playing. Love his playing on Starless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Great work on 'Return To Fantasy' by Uriah Heep. Always loved that album for some reason - 'Shady Lady' has got some great little runs in it. ....and he left them to join Roxy Music - can be heard on some of the tracks on their live album. Real nice crunchy tone on there too. For KC, my own preference is 'Red' (amazing) and the live album, 'USA'. In fact, any of it with JW on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_derby Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 A classy player for sure. I first heard him with a band called Mogul Thrash. Anyone else remember them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visog Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Great voice too... think he wrote Starless? Killer crunch P-Bass tone... Asia was distinctly iffy at times though... Think his best playing is probably on UK. A great lost gem of Prog with a hint of Jazz courtesy of Allan Holdsworth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Woodcock Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 [quote name='visog' timestamp='1471457557' post='3113216'] Think his best playing is probably on UK. A great lost gem of Prog with a hint of Jazz courtesy of Allan Holdsworth! [/quote] UK were great. Did you get to see them play last year? I wanted to but was out on tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pineweasel Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 He's great. "Red" and the UK live album "Night After Night" were big influences when I started. Thanks to the internet I heard Mogul Thrash a few years ago - well worth seeking out. And more recently this turned up - the dream power trio that never was: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI9t9KdVNJE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Wetton with KC - the tone of God. That driven, resonant P bass roar... And anybody playing such material deserves the highest respect. The first Asia album has a wonderful Rick tone but I've always struggled with the material (unkind version - it's horrible). Very much a hired gun, and very versatile. I just think his work with KC was a stars in alignment kind of thing. Edited August 17, 2016 by Cosmo Valdemar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Great bass player but I've always found his lyrics & his solo material pretty terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Bassman Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 [quote name='visog' timestamp='1471457557' post='3113216'] Great voice too... think he wrote Starless? Killer crunch P-Bass tone... Think his best playing is probably on UK. A great lost gem of Prog with a hint of Jazz courtesy of Allan Holdsworth! [/quote] Oh Yes the first UK Album is fab. Saw them on their first tour as well at the long gone Rainbow Finsbury Park. Happy days..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 [quote name='Stickman' timestamp='1471460484' post='3113238'] UK were great. Did you get to see them play last year? I wanted to but was out on tour. [/quote] What!?! How did I not know about this And yes, Wetton-era KC is hard to beat. Red is just the best album ever by anyone! Re. Starless, apparently Wetton wrote the verses and brought it to the band under the title Starless and Bible Black. It was rejected at that point, but they used the title (originally from Dylan Thomas, of course) for an improvisation and of course the title track of the album it appears on. Fast forward to the Red sessions, and it's revisited, gaining an intro written by Fripp and an instrumental section written by Bruford. Somehow the result is the Greatest Song Ever Written , although Wetton was reportedly miffed that they couldn't use his original title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Awesome tone, lovely bass lines. Did I say awesome tone?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1471466525' post='3113315'] And yes, Wetton-era KC is hard to beat. Red is just the best album ever by anyone! [/quote] Bravo sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el borracho Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I only really know his playing from Bandstand by Family - one of my favourite albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 [quote name='el borracho' timestamp='1471467815' post='3113329'] I only really know his playing from Bandstand by Family - one of my favourite albums. [/quote] Good man. Nice to know I'm not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Woodcock Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1471466525' post='3113315'] What!?! How did I not know about this [/quote] Yep, it was Jobson and Wetton with Alex Machacek and Virgil Donati. They played London (and Leamington Spa?) as part of the 'Final World Tour'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 [quote name='el borracho' timestamp='1471467815' post='3113329'] I only really know his playing from Bandstand by Family - one of my favourite albums. [/quote] He was on Fearless, as well as Bandstand. Just the 2 albums unfortunately. Ric Grech and John Weider played on the other albums But this is one of the all time tone monster / creative bass lines from Wetton ... what a peach and my fave bass line of all time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1XKdXXZjDc And if anyone has forgotten what JW used to look like back in the day..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEFJmhigdI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 never realised that was JW on burlesque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 [quote name='Stickman' timestamp='1471551462' post='3113985'] Yep, it was Jobson and Wetton with Alex Machacek and Virgil Donati. They played London (and Leamington Spa?) as part of the 'Final World Tour'. [/quote] And again a couple of years before that in 2012, where Crim fans heard Wetton sing Starless and Book Of Saturday. I'm quite fond of Wetton's playing in this version of Firth Of Fifth, particularly in the guitar solo, about 5mins in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd0pixr81rg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 [quote name='fleabag' timestamp='1471744060' post='3115533'] And if anyone has forgotten what JW used to look like back in the day..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AEFJmhigdI [/quote] That's not JW... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Just testing Its John Weider Edited August 21, 2016 by fleabag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Well that explains the tank top ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Thought Richard Finch was bass player with KC..and the Sunshine Band? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Not King Crimson, but it is John Wetton: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw3E_gcoeOs[/media] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barneyg42 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) 2017 starts to take it's toll!! Perhaps I should say "continues to.........!" Edited January 31, 2017 by barneyg42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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