spectoremg Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80dsyo2Ox-0 The Ox calmly going about his business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number6 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Fantastic video and some great playing from Ox showing just how musical the bass can be. I love his playing style and could only ever aspire to his capability. Thanks for posting this 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subbeh Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Without doubt that is just flat out awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I posted this to the rest of the band a few months ago with the comment "This is why I want to do it". We do "The Seeker". I thought I'd have a bit of revision and found an isolated bass track to that. And then I discovered that I've been playing it wrong for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Adams Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Genius. 2 left hands. I can only dream....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Certainly some awesome playing going on there. Must admit, I'm not keen on his tone (sacrilege, I'm sure) - and the less said about that pointy monstrosity in his hands the better...sorry Ox fans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 [quote name='spongebob' timestamp='1441705918' post='2860966'] I'm not keen on his tone [/quote] You're not the only one. Pete Townsend didn't like it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1441706254' post='2860973'] You're not the only one. Pete Townsend didn't like it either. [/quote]he didn't like Keith Moon's drumming either, should be a happy man now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzodog Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Yes I don't think the way The Who ended up sounding was what Pete Townshend had envisaged according to some interviews My band open with won't get fooled again using a sampled keyboard intro off my phone. I don't play it anywhere near the level Entwistle does but still a great track to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 [quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1441665295' post='2860791'] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80dsyo2Ox-0"]https://www.youtube....h?v=80dsyo2Ox-0[/url] The Ox calmly going about his business. [/quote] Love that there's "Ox" in the URL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul h Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Isolated...I hate it. I hate the tone. I'm not engaged by his playing at all. However, in context with the band I can see why JE is thought of so highly. He's definitely the right bass player for the right band. Saying all that. I now realise I have unknowingly stolen several of the riffs in that song over the years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveK Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Doing a gig with Kenny Jones in a couple of weeks and the set includes WGFA. I've been referring to this clip and other examples. It would be too tall an order to learn note for note what JE plays, in any case he clearly never played it the same twice. More important to decide what parts [i]are[/i] important to copy, the "I'll tip my hat" section is in my mind important to get right, and then attempt to understand in a general way what and how he is playing - pentatonic and blues scale phrases abound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I have to say this isolated track does nothing for me. We play WGFA in the cover band and I went back to the original record to get a feel for the bass line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 I agree that the tone's awful but the experience is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynottfan Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Finest rock bass guitar player that ever walked the Earth in my book, used all techniques, I love his tone and rather like the Alembic to, still prefer his Precision sound off Live at Leeds, but the man was stunning, glad I got to see him do his thing, cheers for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Another amazing bass player who plays with his thumb over the top of the neck. Something for the "technique police" to ponder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Can't listen to it... Awful. Never liked Entwhistle or Moon for that matter... but I can listen to them as a band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Awesome - love the tone and the playing, though have to admit that`s from afar, not my style of playing at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number6 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Tone is subjective as is playing style.....i could make do with both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoombung Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Never liked that band or his bass playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I'm amazed at his technique but iirc his tone in later years was at least in part due to his hearing being knacked. I remember seeing one prog where he said that in later gigs he was lost if Townsend turned his back to him as he couldn't hear enough to slot in. There's a 25 min i'view with him and Gordon Giltrap on YT. Two thing stand out in it, JAE's damn awful tone in all the demos of his basses and amps that he does - and GG being shown two historic guitars of John's and Gordon manages to clunk the headstocks of both of them while perusing them. [url="https://youtu.be/YLq0_ZK6AW8"]https://youtu.be/YLq0_ZK6AW8[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I found this very interesting from several angles. Firstly his use of rythmn at times, which I had never noticed on this track before - reminiscent of the same technique in the bass solo in My Gemeration but perhaps further developed. Secondly his sound is very much like a very pumped up version of a P bass with the tone full up. I don't think it's that awful - a bit like a pre punk sound (j j Burnel etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedoghouse Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Perhaps I'm in a minority here, but I can't watch this clip enough times :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) It's not as if the note choices are particularly experimental or difficult or even that it's hard to play, technique wise. In places it's seriously sloppy (not a criticism!). But it's his sense of groove and phrasing that makes it an incredible piece of music. Edited September 11, 2015 by Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 I think this is quite impressive as well though they were never my fave band [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPl-ToM9WiQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPl-ToM9WiQ[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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