Kevin Dean Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Have you tried gigging with Flat EQ ? any comments . I'm using a Barefaced super 12" & MB little Rocker But I'm going to try a MB MO mark with Valve pre amp & No eq just a volume out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 How do you know if it's "flat"? The manual might say that you've set all the EQ to "zero" or "does nothing" (sometimes anti clockwise, sometimes 12 o'clock) but that doesn't mean the amp isn't colouring the sound of your bass. I generally find the EQ on amps to be pretty useful and would very rarely leave it "flat" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 i use mine fairly flat (hartke ha2500) - dont use the graphic eq at all is permanently punched out - but use just a slight amount of boost on the low end slope and slight cut on the high end slope to give it a bit of extra oomph on the lows and cut some of the brightness from the top - also use a boss LMB-3 which adds a nice bit of extra colour to the tone - only time i will ever dabble with the eq is if we happen to be in a venue where the bass starts resonating and feeding back and will then try and adjust to compensate if possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jamin Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I normally leave my amp generally 'flat' - the pre-amp on my G&L is pretty versatile so I just do most of my adjustments with that and with my playing style - better to get it right at the source I reckon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Regularly run amp flat but with jazz bass I put a little frown on the eq to flatten out the natural scoop the jazz has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Always flat for me, unless the room requires any different, if i'm actually using an amp that is. Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) I have recently started running mine flat on the amp (I know it's flat as I press the button that totally bypasses the EQ) Full treble cut on the bass - sounds superb Edited March 25, 2014 by Roland Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Depends on the amp, the cab, the bass, the room, the band... But I always use my ears rather than my eyes - one of my pet hates is the unthinking use of a 'smile' on a graphic EQ, on the assumption that this will automatically sound 'good'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTB Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I also use a MarkBass head with a Barefaced S12 and leave the eq knobs at noon and the filters mostly off. As others have said, I doubt that is truly flat: instead, it's the signature sound of the amp & I like it. I also appreciate the lack of fiddling involved in getting a good sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTB Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I also use a MarkBass head with a Barefaced S12 and leave the eq knobs at noon and the filters mostly off. As others have said, I doubt that is truly flat: instead, it's the signature sound of the amp & I like it. I also appreciate the lack of fiddling involved in getting a good sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnDave Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I set all EQ on my Ashdown ABM 500 to flat, then adjust slightly according to the acoustics of the place I am playing in. Amp goes through Barefaced Super Twin, bass is fender Precision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I try to leave mine flat, and only tweak mids a bit to get a twangy-cut in the mix, coupled with new strings. Not my preference, but it`s what my band needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 If my backline is just for monitoring on stage I won't use any cut or boost. If it's projecting out front I'll cut the highs and boost the lows to sit better in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horizontalste Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I tend to keep it flat unless my sound is lacking something because of the room, I do play with the contour knob though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 You've got to start with the amp EQ set somehow, so at the so-called 'flat' position is the obvious place. Then adjust for the room and other conditions that you find yourself in. I hardly ever change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1395762740' post='2405948'] How do you know if it's "flat"? The manual might say that you've set all the EQ to "zero" or "does nothing" (sometimes anti clockwise, sometimes 12 o'clock) but that doesn't mean the amp isn't colouring the sound of your bass. I generally find the EQ on amps to be pretty useful and would very rarely leave it "flat" [/quote] [attachment=158592:MOMark.jpg] This has no EQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) [quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1395768474' post='2406048'] ...one of my pet hates is the unthinking use of a 'smile' on a graphic EQ, on the assumption that this will automatically sound 'good'. [/quote] Mine too, that's going to be a mid-scoop and seriously compromise your audibility live. I'm another flattie - or at least I have my EQ at 12 o'clock - whatever that means. I'll boost low mids to be heard a bit more though, especially if the rest of the band are being cocks. Edited March 25, 2014 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Just because the amp has an EQ bypass or no EQ controls at all doesn't mean the circuitry in it isn't adding some"colour" to your sound. And anyone who thinks it isn't is somewhat naïve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 I play in lots of different places, so I just use the 'flat' setting as a starting off point and adjust until it sounds right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_derby Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1395781997' post='2406332'] I play in lots of different places, so I just use the 'flat' setting as a starting off point and adjust until it sounds right. [/quote] Ditto. I also switch the bass I take out with me; depending on the band, the type of venue, colour of shirt I'm wearing or any other whim. Sometimes I run out of EQ 'fiddle time' or just get bored and stop doing it. No one ever seems to notice anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mep Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 On my TE AH200 I use the graphic with some low mid boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) [quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1395781403' post='2406318'] Just because the amp has an EQ bypass or no EQ controls at all doesn't mean the circuitry in it isn't adding some"colour" to your sound. And anyone who thinks it isn't is somewhat naïve. [/quote] Agreed, but does anyone here really think that? If 'flat EQ' were to be interpreted as 'zero overall colouration' then no-one would be able to answer in the affirmative :-D Edited March 25, 2014 by Roland Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dincz Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 When combined with everything else that colours the sound e.g. pickups and cabs, I really think it's irrelevant which direction the lines on the knobs point. Adjust for your preferred sound and be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) GK MB500 into BF Super 12 V. As a starting point I use contour 12 o'clock, treble and high mid, cut at 10 o'clock, low mid and bass, cut at 11 o'clock. Then I set for room. I have had a year with this rig to come to this starting point. A few frustrations in that year Edited March 26, 2014 by karlfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 [quote name='dincz' timestamp='1395816477' post='2406558'] When combined with everything else that colours the sound e.g. pickups and cabs, I really think it's irrelevant which direction the lines on the knobs point. Adjust for your preferred sound and be happy [/quote] This. Everything in your signal chain from how you pluck the strings to where you place the speakers in the room colours the final sound. Worrying about the position of the EQ controls on your amp is pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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