Ant Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Was away over Christmas and our lockup / rehearsal space totally flooded, my barefaced super 15 was almost entirely submerged for an unknown length of time (days I think) It was one of my friends who pulled it out of the more and messaged me saying it will full of slime and crap, no insurance cover or anything so in probably just down a cab, but is there ANYTHING I can do to get it working again (as cheap as possible as we have no money and have to replace plenty of equipment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Have you tried talking to Alex? He would almost definitely be the best person to talk to about what step to take and the likelihood of saving it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) The cab itself might dry out OK, though you would probably want to take out the wadding inside and hose everything down with clean water before drying it out. I think the Super 15 used Eminence 3015 drivers, which are about £170 each at the moment. I don't know if flood damaged drivers could be re-coned, that might be an avenue to explore. Edited January 5, 2016 by Beer of the Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Bugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twincam Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) I've seen speaker thrown in a river fished out and fine! (Long story) I've also heard stories of various speakers dropped in water and once dry were fine. As said clean the cab and insulation, with a hose or in the shower. Let it dry don't force the drying. Cab should be perfectly fine, you might be unlucky if it warps etc but worth a go. Let the speakers dry out. Any gunk might not of got to the voice coils as it would be filtered by the cone and spider. Put them back in the cab, maybe try the 9v battery test before hand to see if they move if so good. Then try them at low volume if they work great, play them for a while low volume maybe raise volume over a long period of time. If any crossovers etc make sure there dry. Good luck Let us know what happens Edited January 5, 2016 by Twincam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 If it makes up some of your livelihood is it worth speaking to the Leeds Community Foundation who are helping folks with uninsured goods and equipment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepbass5 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Alex has said that his cabs can go really deep So you could try it on and say you thought thats what he meant. Maybe he'll send you a new cone anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Are you not insured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 If you thought it sounded muddy before.... Sorry, couldn't resist. I'd definitely recommend contacting Alex, and I hope it works out for you. In the meantime if you're stuck for any gigs, I might be able to help out. Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Take it appart (or have someone with expertise do it for you), hose down everything except the drivers (make sure you clean it very well), leave it all to dry indoors. Barefaced cabs are well braced so your cab may not develop warp. Pay especial attention to the wiring and plugs, after hosing them and leaving to dry spray them with contact cleaner spray. As for the drivers, i believe that the coil of the Kappalite 3015 is vented (if it has a hole on the back of the driver) and if that's the case the driver may be ruined as water might have entered the inside of the coil and dirt may have build up. A recone would be the cheaper way to repair them. There's a chance that they haven't caught dirt and they'll work after drying, if that's the case clean the allready dry cone gently with a brush to remove most of the dirt. Don't try to force it or expect it to look like new, you'll ruin the cone before getting to that point. Talk with Alex and see if he offers you any kind of repair service/quote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 That sucks - like others have said drop Alex an email and see if there's anything he can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mep Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Even if you do not have specific insurance for your kit check your contents insurance. Some will offer cover for personal possessions or items up to a specified amount that are taken out of the house, although you will need to check if covers this sort of damage. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebenezer Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I think the adhesives used in both the cab and the drivers themselves could have been weakened with the cab being submerged!.....hopefully you have got away with it though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 The old adage - 'dry it and try it' comes into play here - I've had 15" G18c speakers with S3 Vitavox horns chucked in a brook ( some audiences are very hard work), and they were fine. I'd leave absolutely alone in a warm(ish) dry space and wait a week or two, then assess the true situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 [quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1452005417' post='2945394'] Take it appart (or have someone with expertise do it for you), hose down everything except the drivers (make sure you clean it very well), leave it all to dry indoors. Barefaced cabs are well braced so your cab may not develop warp. Pay especial attention to the wiring and plugs, after hosing them and leaving to dry spray them with contact cleaner spray. As for the drivers, i believe that the coil of the Kappalite 3015 is vented (if it has a hole on the back of the driver) and if that's the case the driver may be ruined as water might have entered the inside of the coil and dirt may have build up. A recone would be the cheaper way to repair them. There's a chance that they haven't caught dirt and they'll work after drying, if that's the case clean the allready dry cone gently with a brush to remove most of the dirt. Don't try to force it or expect it to look like new, you'll ruin the cone before getting to that point. Talk with Alex and see if he offers you any kind of repair service/quote. [/quote] I'd also see if you can borrow a dehumidifier & leave it next to it for a few days . It worked on an old ampeg 8 x10 that I lent to some one that didn't tell me it was being used outside with very little cover in the rain & left over night . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3below Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Plenty of good advice in the thread, It could be worth contacting Alex to see if the glue used is waterproof and to see what he suggests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Awful! However, on the plus side as long as you don't play it until it's COMPLETELY DRY it'll almost certainly be absolutely fine. Take it somewhere warm, safe and dry. Take the grill off. Take the woofers out and put them somewhere safe and well aired. If the insulation/damping is soaked/dirty I'd pull all that out (note where each bit goes), collect up all the staples (they're not much fun to stand on and you don't want them loose in the cab), and hang that up somewhere to dry. Once everything is bone dry - like not at all damp, like washing that's been in the tumble drier for too long - then vacuum the insulation and inside of the cab and brush any dirt off the cones with a soft brush. Staple/silicone the insulation back in. Re-fit the woofers (make sure their polarity is correct - marked cable to the red terminal) taking care not to push out any t-nuts (use a G-clamp to push them back in if they've come loose), and test the cab before putting the grill back on. If you try to use the cab whilst the cones are still damp they will fall apart. But as long as you wait for it to dry out it should be sonically as good as it was before its aquatic experience. Worst case scenario there'll be too much corrosion on the motor pole pieces but I think you'd have to have it submerged for years to manage that. I'd put some light oil on all the hardware (not the woofers!) to stop things rusting in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburstjazz1967 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Some anti bacterial spray wiped over the surfaces is a good idea too, when flooding occurs the foul mixes with the storm water,"das poop!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 [quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1452025510' post='2945710'] Some anti bacterial spray wiped over the surfaces is a good idea too, when flooding occurs the foul mixes with the storm water,"das poop!" [/quote] Yes, good idea! Just don't go spraying even more water on it. Get it dry, then disinfect if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Far be it from me....but I'd leave the drivers in to act as an 'anti-warp' brace while the thing dries out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subthumper Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 You might get away with no corrosion on the magnet centre pole. All the other types of eminence driver I've seen have completely powder coated magnet assemblies and are almost rust proof. I'd be interested to know how this goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 [quote name='Subthumper' timestamp='1452031043' post='2945798'] You might get away with no corrosion on the magnet centre pole. All the other types of eminence driver I've seen have completely powder coated magnet assemblies and are almost rust proof. I'd be interested to know how this goes. [/quote] You're quite right, they are all powder coated, I'd forgotten! I'd be surprised if the cab warps when drying out, there's a lot of bracing in there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Maybe just dry it out and sell it on to The Waterboy's Bassist..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rOB Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Wishing you all the best with this. Seems like a few bands lost quite a bit of gear in the floods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bassman7755 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 [quote name='deepbass5' timestamp='1452000489' post='2945332'] Alex has said that his cabs can go really deep [/quote] I guess it can be used as a sub ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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