Low End Bee Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Inspired by Bilbo's Steve Hacket thread. I find the fine line between genius and disaster interesting. I put forward Lawrence from Felt/Denim/Go Kart Mozart. Is he a wry commentator and skilled songsmith or just the loony next door who doesn't know what an email is? Mark E Smith likewise. Ritchie Blackmore from Highway Star to the Hey Nonny Nonny stuff on lutes while wearing Carry On Medieval get up. More will come to me. I'm not sure why I'm quite so intrigued by the no filter brigade. Maybe it's that they are true punk rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorR Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 OK, so I'll jump straight in with a controversial (or is it) suggestion. An up and coming young lad called Paul (Macca) McCArtney. It's been interesting to watch his progress from the point where he kinda got too big for anyone to say to him, "Paul, really...?" For me I'd musically put that some time soon after the "Give My Regards to Broad Street" album. I reckon that's the last album I've heard of his full of cracking songs. I've always thought he benefits from a strong co-writer/collaborator - Lennon (adding the cynicism back into his music*) or George Martin, Denny Laine or, on "BrRoad Street", Eric Stewart of 10CC fame IRRC. * The story of "Getting Better All The Time" as told by George Martin is a great example of this where Lennon's interjected "...counld't get much worse..." saves it from just being a twee syurpy tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I'm sorry guys but I have just two words to say to you. Elvis Presley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1442851894' post='2870002'] I'm sorry guys but I have just two words to say to you. Elvis Presley [/quote] Hmm, possibly. I think his management wasn't good for him for most of his career. I suspect that missing out on the 1980s has helped him to retain a little dignity in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Taylor Swift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Elton John. I can't say I'm the greatest fan but he has done some excellent songs... and some not so good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybertect Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Possibly a controversial choice here, but Kate Bush seems to (almost) always have one track on each of her albums that makes me cringe. Case in point: [i]Experiment IV[/i], which was the bonus '[color=#252525][font=sans-serif]previously unreleased track[/font][/color]' on [i]The Whole Story[/i] greatest hits, which leaves me embarrassed for her every time I hear it. I think there's a similar example on just about every other album she's put out. [i]There Goes a Tenner[/i] sticks out on the otherwise magnificent [i]The Dreaming.[/i] Lots of other examples to be found. Oddly, [i]The Hounds of Love[/i] is entirely free from such aberrations, which is probably why it's my favourite KB album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Tom Waits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameronj279 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Frank Zappa would be my addition to this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantgrey Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 But then what do they do with their envelope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 One of the biggest disappointments of my years in record companies was turning down a Ray Charles album (turned out to be his last) that really needed some filtering. Horn arrangements were all played on the cheesiest of synths. I suggested to his management that we'd take the album if we could put real horns on but they said they couldn't relay this back to Mr Charles. Album came out a few months later and got slated for the awful horn lines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LayDownThaFunk Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Kanye... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Muse. Just stop it with the Queen/Dr Who theme mash-ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeystrange Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Tim Armstrong. 90% of his solo stuff is terrible and there's so much of it he must just record and release whatever comes into his head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spectoremg Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 [quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1442849537' post='2869981'] Inspired by Bilbo's Steve Hacket thread. I find the fine line between genius and disaster interesting. I put forward Lawrence from Felt/Denim/Go Kart Mozart. Is he a wry commentator and skilled songsmith or just the loony next door who doesn't know what an email is? Mark E Smith likewise. Ritchie Blackmore from Highway Star to the Hey Nonny Nonny stuff on lutes while wearing Carry On Medieval get up. More will come to me. I'm not sure why I'm quite so intrigued by the no filter brigade. Maybe it's that they are true punk rock! [/quote]Don't forget Sting - he's got lute crime on his criminal record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Zappa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geddys nose Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Prince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 . . . . anyone making music in their bedrooms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Oh, and of course Clapton - however did he allow Layla to be recorded, let alone released?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) I have no filter... some of my stuff is shockingly crap Edited September 22, 2015 by CamdenRob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I have to add Jeff Berlin into this mix. He is undoubtedly one of the most accomplished players on the scene in terms of advanced chordal technique, soloing etc etc. Nevertheless, he has the worst, thinnest, ickiest sound imaginable and chooses the worst tuines (Imagine, Tears In Heaven) to perform with some sort of pseudo-commercial intentions, his concepts are cringeworthy (Low Standards - a trio with a pianist who can also play bass so JB can do a 'lead' bass thing over the top of a walking double bass. I LOVED him with Bruford and Allan Holdsworth and Champions and Pump It were great (a couple of turkies in there but otherwise ok) but now and for the last couple of decades he is, for me, the 'cleverest bass player who I can't listen' to in the world. He needs a producer that can stand up to his 'I have this concept' b******. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Oh - and someone tell Joe Lovano to stop Judy Silvano ruining his recordings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 RHCP. Why is that incompetent fool still the frontman?Can't sing. Can't rap. No rhythm. Can't write lyrics. If they wrote 100 good tunes, his contribution would ruin 95 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky Dunky Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 As for Blackmore - nobody has disappeared up their own rear orifice more than he. Some cracking riffs, but as a lead player I really think he's dreadful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 To a very limited extent - Phil Lynott Yes, I know that the majority of his work was great, [i][b]but[/b][/i].... [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvKb13Z9gg0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvKb13Z9gg0[/url] and [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhAmA_ILgl4"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhAmA_ILgl4[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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