dave_bass5 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Or for a more traditional take on the headless bass, how about a Spirit bass. The neck has a 1.5" nut but is quite deep, so it feels more comfortable in the hand. My 8 year old finds this a lot easier to play (badly at the moment) than my Jazz bass. It just seems more manageable, and definitely no neck dive. [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/8569472235/][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/8569472235/]Spirit from the past.[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/davebass5/]dave_bass5[/url], on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 What about the Precision Lyte is certainly fits all of you criteria weight and size wise it's not too expensive, you can, as many do, upgrade the pre amp (but I love mine just the way it is) and you can get them in some decent colours unlike mine horrid tobacco burst should that 1970's disco feel not appeal to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Vader Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1363812562' post='2018165'] The 'cricket bat' and Ibby suggestions are sound. As something a bit different, how about an EUB? [/quote] I was going to say this, I also have a fairly shot back, and a ganglion in my wrist that keeps coming back. Since I have been able to lean on my bass between songs and keep my left wrist up by my head I've had a lot less problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt P Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Jon Letts has a singlecut 4 string on his website, I've played it and it's about the lightest best balanced and most killer sounding bass ever, if I needed a 4 string I would have bought it on the spot. I would post a link but I'm on my phone and it won't let me. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='heminder' timestamp='1363811547' post='2018131'] One of these? [/quote] Saw one of these go for£225 on eBay last week. This would be ideal imho. Maybe you should look at Pilates for your discomfort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1363812934' post='2018170'] Or for a more traditional take on the headless bass, how about a Spirit bass. The neck has a 1.5" nut but is quite deep, so it feels more comfortable in the hand. My 8 year old finds this a lot easier to play (badly at the moment) than my Jazz bass. It just seems more manageable, and definitely no neck dive. [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/8569472235/][/url] [url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/8569472235/]Spirit from the past.[/url] by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/davebass5/]dave_bass5[/url], on Flickr [/quote] Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Paul Rose/Prose bass/Funn bass was focusing on making small light short scale basses at the end - not expensive either. Or Letts could possibly rustle you up something similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugget Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I tried a friends 30" cheap something-or-other and it was REALLY good, it felt right. i'm sure he didnt pay much for it. [url="http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Dean-Evo-XM-Electric-Guitar-Transparent-Black/FS7"]http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Dean-Evo-XM-Electric-Guitar-Transparent-Black/FS7[/url] couldnt loose too much money on something like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1363810152' post='2018089']I've got a totally knackered back, meaning any bass over 8.5lbs is a total no-go. My hands are small so I'm having trouble with the neck of my P. Shoulder is a bit dodgy so anything that neck dives is out. Great big cyst in my right wrist joint and subsequent issues with bending it makes slab bodies out. Recurring tendonitis, means my action needs to be less than 2mm with a dead straight neck. And finally, a previously torn and ill-repaired ligament in my left wrist means I have pain when playing anything below 3rd fret.[/quote] Just checking you've had your injuries checked by a physio? I see this has already been asked but I didn't see an answer. Apologies if this is out of place. The only reason I ask is I've had a few injuries, pulls & RSI etc, none of which a good sports physio hasn't been able to fix 100%. Also an ex of mine seriously knackered her ankle falling off a pile of crap at the stables. They were talking deliberately breaking her ankle to make it easier to fix, carpal tunnel ops, fusing bones etc etc. My physio fixed it by massaging away all of the scar tissue which had built up around the tendon tear & she didn't have to go near an operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1363811690' post='2018133'] I don't think I can afford to go custom, although his basses are stunning. How does the wooden bridge work out? How does one adjust the action and intonation? [/quote] My fretless Letts bass has a 'traditional' Hipshot A style bridge. The other big advantage, aside from the feather-like weight, is that the neck is angled back from the plane of the body and that takes a bit of stress out of the wrist. Cost me £400 (preloved). It's worth at least a conversation with Jon I would think. Shame you're not closer as I'd happily bring mine over. The most stunning and ergonomic bass without peers imho is this one: [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/Gallery/286/"]http://www.acguitars...uk/Gallery/286/[/url] I've had a play and the somewhat unusual body shapes allow it to be played on the lap, like a classical guitar and round the neck. In each position it is perfectly balanced too, a truly amazing instrument. Ignore all the custom bass sceptics, if you specify what you want you will have a bass for life - just think what your 30 basses cost you in terms of the difference between purchase and sale prices. Unless you are unique gifted (and should therefore be trading derivatives) you will probably be out of pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1363812934' post='2018170'] Or for a more traditional take on the headless bass, how about a Spirit bass. The neck has a 1.5" nut but is quite deep, so it feels more comfortable in the hand. My 8 year old finds this a lot easier to play (badly at the moment) than my Jazz bass. It just seems more manageable, and definitely no neck dive. [url="http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/8569472235/"][/url] [url="http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/8569472235/"]Spirit from the past.[/url] by [url="http://www.flickr.com/people/davebass5/"]dave_bass5[/url], on Flickr [/quote] Go for the Hohner Jack though, they are much higher quality components and build, and sound. They're not expensive s/h either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Having owned both at the same time I have to partially disagree with you. My Spirit has probably done 30+ gigs (yes, back in the late 80's without any issus. My Jack ended up being sold off cheaply as the bridge/tuners fell apart. I'm not sure if there is a difference between the hardware on both, I couldn't see any, but the Spirit always sounded and played better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba_the_gut Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Or try one of these p-basses....26" scale!! That's a somewhat modified 20 years ago Hohner cricket bat next to it. Looks awful and is a bit knocked about but the neck is really nice. [attachment=130598:DSC03985.JPG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='rushbo' timestamp='1363812555' post='2018164'] Hofner BeatleBass? I've got the budget version and its nice and light, short scale and sounds great. Pretty cheap from Thomann too... [/quote] This disappeared up the screen without comment, but it's a near-perfect solution. Very light, short-scale, small body, thin neck, lovely tone (as long as you don't want to something daft like slapping), instantly recognisable ... what's not to like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBass Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 What sort of treatments have you tried for your problems? Ever heard or tried The Alexander Technique? It focuses on all the problems you list as it helps to strengthen the core muscles as well as promoting ease of movement and efficiency rather than getting tense and complicating your movements. It might be something worth looking at! I've looked but alas I can't fund it being unemployed currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Ortega D-Walker, 24.4" scale! http://ortegaguitars.com/en/products/acoustic-basses/acoustic-bass/show/Product/d-walker-bk/d-walker-bk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1363813342' post='2018183'] Just checking you've had your injuries checked by a physio? I see this has already been asked but I didn't see an answer. Apologies if this is out of place. The only reason I ask is I've had a few injuries, pulls & RSI etc, none of which a good sports physio hasn't been able to fix 100%. Also an ex of mine seriously knackered her ankle falling off a pile of crap at the stables. They were talking deliberately breaking her ankle to make it easier to fix, carpal tunnel ops, fusing bones etc etc. My physio fixed it by massaging away all of the scar tissue which had built up around the tendon tear & she didn't have to go near an operation. [/quote] Not out of place at all I've been to a Physio about my wrist ligaments, they gave me a brace and said wear this for two weeks. Then I went back and they weren't really sure what to do after that. Good old NHS. And I've been to see a specialist about the cyst, and he refused to remove it as there's no nerve damage yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stu Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1363818636' post='2018281']I've been to a Physio about my wrist ligaments, they gave me a brace and said wear this for two weeks. Then I went back and they weren't really sure what to do after that. Good old NHS.[/quote] Sounds familiar,I was had suggested ballroom dancing to help my back when I came off my bike. Many local sports clubs have open clinic sessions by their physio. If there's any kind of club near you it may be worth asking; a rugby club would be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Undead Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Nah don't know of any rugby club in Gloucester... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChick Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I get on great with Ibanez basses (4 and 5 string) as they are slim neck. Although I do find if I'm doing lots of hammer ons between frets 1 and 3 that my wrist and hands to tire quickly as I don't have the hand size of men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I was thinking short scale also, like a Mustang of a Jag. I'm sure with a shorter neck than a P they will be less likely to have neck dive.. And you could always change the tuners to Hipshot Ultra light ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 [quote name='Roger2611' timestamp='1363812980' post='2018171'] What about the Precision Lyte is certainly fits all of you criteria weight and size wise [/quote] Good call they are very light. The Hohner 'Jack' bass might work too. Also maybe the original Fender 'Urge' bass - 32" scale and lightweight. I would normally recommend the Hohner B2A but if playing below the 3rd fret is painful you should avoid any bass that doesn't have the strap button in the region of the 12th fret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tdw Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 May have been mentioned, and they are quite expensive but how about Kubicki x factor, light, 32" scale, ergonomically advanced, real easy to play and sounds great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBollock Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 [quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1363822911' post='2018352'] Good call they are very light. The Hohner 'Jack' bass might work too. Also maybe the original Fender 'Urge' bass - 32" scale and lightweight. I would normally recommend the Hohner B2A but if playing below the 3rd fret is painful you should avoid any bass that doesn't have the strap button in the region of the 12th fret. [/quote] I was thinking about the Stick type Basses and their weight distribution, I was wondering if one of those Country style, single button straps (I can't think what they're called right now) might make it better? It might well help with shoulder problems too as it only hangs from your neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Evil Undead' timestamp='1363820322' post='2018315'] Nah don't know of any rugby club in Gloucester... [/quote] err, Gloucester Rugby Club, Kingsholm Stadium Kingsholm Road, Gloucester GL1 3AX 01452 872250 Ah yes, early morning, just seen smiley Creeps out via the back door!!!! Edited March 21, 2013 by bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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