The Bass Doc Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Anyone else experience this? At the beginning of a tune (whether I'm playing on a gig or just listening to a CD etc.) I sometimes 'hear' a completely different key for quite a few bars until it seems to settle into the true one. It's quite disconcerting when I'm playing because I know my fingers are in the right place but the key sounds wrong. OR....is it the beer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-bbb Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 im glad im not the only one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Are you sure it wasn't the holiday? or is it home brew beer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I thought it was just me....It all comes back into key if I concentrate hard enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I usually have to hear the singing before I get the pitch. I put it down to the fact that my hearing is knackered, but maybe it is more widespread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 You're not on any medications, are you? My other half was briefly prescribed Carbamazepine for epilepsy, and there's an occasional side-effect where it messes up pitch perception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 My ears are totally screwed. I'm told I never sound like John McVie when I play!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bass Doc Posted July 2, 2012 Author Share Posted July 2, 2012 I'm on tablets for a heart condition - blood thinning, colesterol and the like. Thing is I think this hearing 'defect' was present before these were prescribed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerstodge Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I think im "bass deaf".. I can shake a pubs windows out and i still can't hear myself?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1341255211' post='1715927'] I think im "bass deaf".. I can shake a pubs windows out and i still can't hear myself?? [/quote] That's what I call "The Ampeg effect" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerstodge Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1341255586' post='1715939'] That's what I call "The Ampeg effect" [/quote] Thats exactly what the hearing specialist said it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1341255741' post='1715946'] Thats exactly what the hearing specialist said it was. [/quote] Being in a band with two guitarists has been known to cause this too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHimself Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='rogerstodge' timestamp='1341255211' post='1715927'] I think im "bass deaf".. I can shake a pubs windows out and i still can't hear myself?? [/quote] No-one can ever hear themselves in the band. You can always hear everyone else perfectly well, just not yourself. I can't say I have ever had this problem, but then again I have always had fantastic pitch perception so there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1341255877' post='1715950'] Being in a band with two guitarists has been known to cause this too! [/quote] Speaking of which, they also suffer from that defect that means they never hear these words combined in a certain order: "You, Down, Your, Turn, Must, Amplifier, ForTheLoveOfAllThatIsSacredIEMyHearing." Baffling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Yep, this has happened to me! Weird isn't it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertbass Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 You're not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 If you have different degrees of hearing loss in each ear, this can be the result. Known as diplacusis, which as said, tends to sort itself after a few seconds. When it doesn't, problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Vader Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 [quote name='Telebass' timestamp='1341387509' post='1717963'] If you have different degrees of hearing loss in each ear, this can be the result. Known as diplacusis, which as said, tends to sort itself after a few seconds. When it doesn't, problems! [/quote] Explains everything. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigjas Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Yep, I suffer from this too, usually when gigging. For me it depends on the volume of the music, if we are in a small venue and its all a bit loud, then everything sounds off, this is very un-nerving as I know I'm playing in the right key, but vocals and guitar sound off. Its something I am getting used too the more gigs we do. When we practice in the rehearsal room, I do not have this problem, I think this is due to the volume levels being much lower. When I bring this up with the rest of the band, they don't have the same problem and don't think we should turn down. I have recently started to use ear plugs to see if it helps, it does to a certain degree but wearing ear plugs does take some getting used to ( I feel isolated from the rest of the band and the audience). My hearing is starting to deteriorate and just put it down to this. Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamPodmore Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 [quote name='Bigjas' timestamp='1341397345' post='1718186'] Yep, I suffer from this too, usually when gigging. For me it depends on the volume of the music, if we are in a small venue and its all a bit loud, then everything sounds off, this is very un-nerving as I know I'm playing in the right key, but vocals and guitar sound off. Its something I am getting used too the more gigs we do. When we practice in the rehearsal room, I do not have this problem, I think this is due to the volume levels being much lower. When I bring this up with the rest of the band, they don't have the same problem and don't think we should turn down. I have recently started to use ear plugs to see if it helps, it does to a certain degree but wearing ear plugs does take some getting used to ( I feel isolated from the rest of the band and the audience). My hearing is starting to deteriorate and just put it down to this. Jas [/quote] E [quote name='Bigjas' timestamp='1341397345' post='1718186'] Yep, I suffer from this too, usually when gigging. For me it depends on the volume of the music, if we are in a small venue and its all a bit loud, then everything sounds off, this is very un-nerving as I know I'm playing in the right key, but vocals and guitar sound off. Its something I am getting used too the more gigs we do. When we practice in the rehearsal room, I do not have this problem, I think this is due to the volume levels being much lower. When I bring this up with the rest of the band, they don't have the same problem and don't think we should turn down. I have recently started to use ear plugs to see if it helps, it does to a certain degree but wearing ear plugs does take some getting used to ( I feel isolated from the rest of the band and the audience). My hearing is starting to deteriorate and just put it down to this. Jas [/quote] Expensive but have a look into In Ear Monitoring. That way you can control your own volume and don't have the isolated effects of earplugs. I've experienced this once or twice (Not that i actually know what key i'm playing in) but not often. Liam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairobill Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 If you get feelings of dizziness, esp when you shift your head quick quickly, then it could be labyrinthitis. Very dealable with (my wife had it) and it creates strange auditory effects that can sound like different pitches or even 'chirruppy' squonks (for want of a better word). Cairo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 No is the answer to your question. But when I hear that something is out of tune I always assume it's me - even though I know that it's much more likely to be the guitar or vocals. I must be paranoid. Although I've gone through half a song playing in the wrong key giving dirty looks to everybody else until I realise it's me that's got it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commando Jack Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I can get this when listening to music if it's too low in volume - I put it down to only hearing some of the harmonics and not the fundamentals. Never happened at a gig though thankfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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