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I never did get one! They looked great. Wish Kiesel would get them made and distribute in the UK.

I still rate the TC amps and cabs. They really had a grip on the market for some time. I can't believe it has been 14-15 years! Really?! I have 2 x RS210, covers, footswitch, RH750 and the bag and I enjoy them still. I actually don't think we have moved on THAT far since the Genz Benz/TC/Markbass amps of 10 or so years ago.

Well it is for Genzler...news for them. I am a user of Genz Benz amps and I have a LOT of respect for their technology in the bass amp/cab world. Why would I want to generate google hits? Makes no difference to me. Not my career/business/company. Anyway, apparently they are releasing info later today.

Description. Our circuitry and mechanical designs within the KINETIX™ 800 deliver an all-new platform in tube preamp, compact bass amplification design – exactly what players have come to expect from the GENZLER® design team. There is a thread on Talkbass and some teaser pics on Genzler's social media ads. Hmmmm!

Boss don't mess about. I imagine this will be pretty much bulletproof. If I was thinking about a new bass amp I'd try this.

Well considering the hefty prices for an 'official' Made in China Dingwall, this seems a great option hahaha!

I'd class these two as 'top of their game': 1. Bergantino Forte HP2 Bass Amplifier - Bass Direct https://www.bassdirect.co.uk/product/bergantino-forte-hp2-bass-amplifier/ 2. Mesa Boogie Subway TT-800 - Andertons Music Co. https://www.andertons.co.uk/mesa-boogie/mesa-boogie-subway-tt-800 If I ever move on my Genz Benz/TC amps or fancy a change, I'll be sure to choose one of those. Compared to guitar amp pricing now, we have it pretty easy! I understand the issue with Gibson and the crazy price jumps, so I understand why people might not be happy, but for once I'm pretty sure £1550 ish seems fair for the top of the line USA made product.

My word they don't look that great, IMO.

I really like these JD models. Simple and stripped back. Love the natural. EBMM have mostly changed into a MUCH more limited run type company now for the USA models, with higher pricing. Gone are the days of seeing a load of Stingrays at £1400 on the wall.

What is the One4th? A new 1x10?

The unfortunate part of this is that the Classics, whilst they came out say 10 years ago, were also less than half the price of these new (4 string versions). I picked up a Classic 5 Stingray (the best bass guitar I've ever owned!) for about £1600 brand new. Prices are crazy in 2023.

My advice - get a HX stomp. Fantastic piece of equipment, especially if you also tinker with guitar.

It's worth considering not that long ago, you could get a Musicman Stingray H (USA) with a hardcase for around £1300-1400. This is absolutely absurd money, and just like the latest 'high end' Epiphones, I doubt they will sell many.

No real bass support at launch is POOR.

Those cabs are extremely expensive!

Sounds like he is, sadly, a bit of a con-man! Glad you got your money back.

For Ampeg, those cabs are exceptionally light.

Yamaha don't normally mess about; usually they go to town on reliability and build quality. This might be a good move for them.

The Oly White/Tort 60s P Bass - looks like my first 'proper' bass - Fender MIJ P Bass 60s....I miss that thing. This is the first bass I've liked the look of in a long time!

That is just pure annoyance! ☹️

Just heard a few more demos of this. More QC issues and the pickups sound so weak and flat.

I wish. 42.

I can't think of anything worse than a silent stage. All of the fun/sound just in your ears with no omppph....not for me. As one of the biggest bands on the planet, they can do what they want, and I'd be just as ridiculous for fun. Probably 4 x Aguilar 412DB cabs.

There is a chap, Phil McKnight, who discusses these type of issues on his podcast/youtube channel. He worked in retail for many years as an owner of a guitar store. I agree with him that many guitar brands are going for 'limited edition' more and more in 2023 as a marketing tool. Yes, they may well be limited runs, but the reason for it is to create a false sense of urgency...they could make more, but they don't so they'll sell the batch fast.

Unfortunately it's more true in recent years with how big brands market their gear.