steve-bbb Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 my friends in jeebusland would call this "hipster douchebag" being generous as i am i just call it mediocre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I haven't really kept up with Lion-O and the gang since the 80s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 agreed, I think loads of other players did this 30 years ago, and better too. I wanted to like it too, but it's really uninspiring. Surely the point of a bass 'solo' album is to push boundaries of tone or technique (amongst other things), not just please yourself. I think listening to this whole album would have the same effect as watching him masturbate in public - it would just make you feel uneasy and a bit sick, it would also make you wonder why he's doing it in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 It just sounds like some very naff Return To Forever offcuts. The tripe they jam out but would never dream of putting near their albums. Too many hoary old key sounds, and a sort of naff faux-retro vibe. His tone is awful too. No, I don't really think much of this at all, and as a big RTF and fusion fan it pains me to say that. I would love for fusion to be re-invigorated and for some great players to really get active and refresh that genre. Sadly, I think it's cheesy rubbish like this that has done the genre in, because it was essentially watered down rubbish like this that spoiled things the first time around. Some of it also has a bit of a Level 42 flavour, as if Mike Lindup said one day at an early 80's soundcheck "hey guys, lets play some tuneless rubbish. Mark, you can do what you want but make sure you keep it meandering and aimless. If by chance an original sounding lick pops into your head, store it but don't play it here". What a load of dross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1323878537' post='1468146'] It just sounds like some very naff Return To Forever offcuts. The tripe they jam out but would never dream of putting near their albums. Too many hoary old key sounds, and a sort of naff faux-retro vibe. His tone is awful too. No, I don't really think much of this at all, and as a big RTF and fusion fan it pains me to say that. I would love for fusion to be re-invigorated and for some great players to really get active and refresh that genre. Sadly, I think it's cheesy rubbish like this that has done the genre in, because it was essentially watered down rubbish like this that spoiled things the first time around. Some of it also has a bit of a Level 42 flavour, as if Mike Lindup said one day at an early 80's soundcheck "hey guys, lets play some tuneless rubbish. Mark, you can do what you want but make sure you keep it meandering and aimless. If by chance an original sounding lick pops into your head, store it but don't play it here". What a load of dross. [/quote] Good points well made - and a very fair assessment - maybe it's my poor taste that make me like bits of it or rather I'm not really comparing it to the likes of RTF - I think he's coming from a different angle altogether - what some of you might not know is that he played with Erykah Badu for years and still plays with Suicidal Tendencies - I'm not making excuses for some of the music I just dig some of it because it's different - if you want some banging jazz rock/fusion there's plenty of it around that's really good right now - Ranjit Borat's Sonic Boom - Human Element - Jeff King's Catalyst - Rudresh Mahanthappa's Samdhi - anyway just my teppence worth - I've made my point I'll leave now M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]I'll give this guy and his publicists and management team 10 out of 10 for a good marketing campaign. I'd like to know how they swung it on so many levels. Was it a slow news day in bassland? [/font][/color][/size][color=#222222][font=Arial][size=1][/size][/font][/color] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial] [/font][/color][/size][color=#222222][font=Arial][size=1][/size][/font][/color] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]Unfortunately you've got to back it up or the hype becomes the stick that everyone uses to hit you. [/font][/color][/size][color=#222222][font=Arial][size=1][/size][/font][/color] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial] [/font][/color][/size][color=#222222][font=Arial][size=1][/size][/font][/color] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]As seems to be happening here! [/font][/color][/size][color=#222222][font=Arial][size=1][/size][/font][/color] [font=Arial][size=2] [/size][/font] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urb Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1323879312' post='1468163'] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]Unfortunately you've got to back it up or the hype becomes the stick that everyone uses to hit you. [/font][/color][/size] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]As seems to be happening here! [/font][/color][/size] [/quote] Such is life.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I am now asleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Early days. His technique is amazing, but the video improved vastly once I found the mute. You never know, he may write some songs someday and we`ll all love it to bits and rush to buy whatever pedal he used to make that donkey with a hernia noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_lindsay Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'd seen him in Bass Player magazine, but this is the first time I've actually heard any of his stuff. My initial impression - absolute sh*te! I certainly won't be searching out any of his stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I could not put this better myself [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1323878537' post='1468146'] It just sounds like some very naff Return To Forever offcuts. The tripe they jam out but would never dream of putting near their albums. Too many hoary old key sounds, and a sort of naff faux-retro vibe. His tone is awful too. No, I don't really think much of this at all, and as a big RTF and fusion fan it pains me to say that. I would love for fusion to be re-invigorated and for some great players to really get active and refresh that genre. Sadly, I think it's cheesy rubbish like this that has done the genre in, because it was essentially watered down rubbish like this that spoiled things the first time around. Some of it also has a bit of a Level 42 flavour, as if Mike Lindup said one day at an early 80's soundcheck "hey guys, lets play some tuneless rubbish. Mark, you can do what you want but make sure you keep it meandering and aimless. If by chance an original sounding lick pops into your head, store it but don't play it here". What a load of dross. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [quote name='Monckyman' timestamp='1323882541' post='1468240'] but the video improved vastly once I found the mute. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamd Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I've been loving the album since it came out. Journalistic hyberbole aside it has some wondrous moments (the cover of George Dukes 'For Love I Come), great genuinely inspired melody and awesome playing. A lot of the bass sounds are very processed (its FlyLo) and not immediately apparent. It references the past but there is real forward thinking in the production and playing. Still, hes no Mike Rutherford eh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Anyone who suggests this is the 'future of bass' knows nothing about its past. Highly derivative, imo. Certainly no melodic, harmonic or rhythmic innovation. Just some home studio production and some mediocre songwriting. Not bad, just not worth spending much time with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 I'm probably the least impressed person on this site..kiss of death pronouncing somebody as "the future of.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 His music made me want to turn his music off and turn on good music from the 70's instead. If this is what he intended, he is indeed a genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 [url="http://www.myspace.com/tokibeats"]http://www.myspace.com/tokibeats[/url] This is better from Brainfeeder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafbass02 Posted December 25, 2011 Share Posted December 25, 2011 Just got the album for Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwilym Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 Snarf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-N-Y Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 (edited) Just checking Thundercat's CD out. Sounds quite interesting to my ears. There are some video clips knocking about of him playing an MTD 6 string bass, he is indeed very talented. Whether he is the future of bass I am not so sure. He does however come from a family of monster musicians, his brother being Ronald Bruner Jr, one of the hottest new young jazz/fusion drummers to emerge in recent years. Ronald also has a somewhat unconventional playing style...maybe it just runs in the family. Edited December 30, 2011 by M-N-Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 [quote name='M-N-Y' timestamp='1325269299' post='1481612'] Just checking Thundercat's CD out. Sounds quite interesting to my ears. There are some video clips knocking about of him playing an MTD 6 string bass, he is indeed very talented. Whether he is the future of bass I am not so sure. He does however come from a family of monster musicians, his brother being Ronald Bruner Jr, one of the hottest new young jazz/fusion drummers to emerge in recent years. Ronald also has a somewhat unconventional playing style...maybe it just runs in the family. [/quote] Ronald is pretty fabulous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S41IlaZZMv0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fender73 Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Not my bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-N-Y Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Thanks for posting Silddx,great stuff. I love the band, the tune and the drumming. The drum sound is just my bag as well. I think Ronald may well be destined for greatness. I don't suppose you know who the other musicians are? I would like to delve into this a bit further. Cheers, Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-N-Y Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Think I might be a bit mad but this Cd is amazing. It does take some listening to,but i think that might be the point. I am listening through headphones and I think this helps the music have a little more impact. It does have hints of Herbie Hancock and 70's funk mixed with stuff which sounds like it's been produced on another planet. Overall summary, I like it very much. I'll get my coat then..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbass1 Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Not my knid of thing, but no denying he's talented. If he raises the profile of bass players that can only be good IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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