EBay no fees

[martthebass]

Just my luck also. Sold a Naim CD last week and got hit for c. £40

[Burns-bass]

Sold a bass on there that wouldn’t sell here. No fees, instant payment and the cash is now in my bank.

 

Well done EBay!

[Jean-Luc Pickguard]

Ebay has now brought in a stipulation that sellers will be required to use the shipping method booked through ebay, where loss or damage is covered as part of the service. I wonder how this will work for guitars/basses that turn up broken?

[acidbass]

2 minutes ago, Jean-Luc Pickguard said:

Ebay has now brought in a stipulation that sellers will be required to use the shipping method booked through ebay, where loss or damage is covered as part of the service. I wonder how this will work for guitars/basses that turn up broken?

I'm still using my own shipping methods and entering my own tracking, I am a private seller but transact quite a bit thru eBay.  When did this rule come in?

[JJMotown]

5 minutes ago, acidbass said:

I'm still using my own shipping methods and entering my own tracking, I am a private seller but transact quite a bit thru eBay.  When did this rule come in?

Message was sent yesterday. But doesn't come into affect till next week. It doesn't apply to bulky items, so basses should be OK to send with own postage rate.

[tauzero]

I assumed it would give a proper choice of carriers, like using Interparcel or Parcel2Go would, but it's actually a choice between Evri and Royal Mail.

 

Eligibility: maximum value of £750, maximum weight 20kg, and there are also maximum dimensions.

• Evri - no side greater than 120cm, and ((two shortest sides added together) * 2) + longest side not greater than 245cm
• Royal Mail - up to 61cm x 46cm x 46cm

Insurance coverage for full value from the moment of dropping off.

 

A P bass is just under 120cm long, in a box it will be over 120cm. Buzzards and Thunderbirds will definitely be ineligible, headlesses worth less than £750 will be eligible unless they're in oversized boxes.

[Suburban Man]

I just got caught out by the ‘Simple Shipping’ - featuring a mandatory charge for ‘insurance’ taken from my account and also mandatory shipping cost deduction. Problem being that the EBay postage details were wrong so I not only had to pay for shipping I couldn’t use, but purchase another label for the correct weight and size. Not happy 😡 

[tauzero]

41 minutes ago, Suburban Man said:

I just got caught out by the ‘Simple Shipping’ - featuring a mandatory charge for ‘insurance’ taken from my account and also mandatory shipping cost deduction. Problem being that the EBay postage details were wrong so I not only had to pay for shipping I couldn’t use, but purchase another label for the correct weight and size. Not happy 😡 

 

It should have given you the option to confirm the size and weight.

[Suburban Man]

2 hours ago, tauzero said:

 

It should have given you the option to confirm the size and weight.

If it did, I missed it; possibly my error. just got a message saying I should have ‘opted out’ when I listed - which is no longer possible.

[thebrig]

This is the email from eBay:

 

Hi Brian

 

We’re continuing our mission to provide you with a great selling experience on eBay, which is why we made it free to sell. Now, we’re enhancing delivery so it’s faster, easier, and more secure for you to send your items.

Starting from 15 April, Simple Delivery will be the only delivery method available for private sellers when listing most items. There’ll be a few exceptions, such as low-priced, bulky items, and local pick-up, which aren’t eligible for Simple Delivery.

 

Simple Delivery is our all-in-one delivery solution, designed to cut out all of the effort and save you money. It’s also the fastest way to get paid on eBay. Plus, buyers will benefit from savings and enjoy the peace of mind that tracking offers.

 

Here’s how it works:

1. When listing, we’ll recommend the size and weight of your item. Just confirm and we’ll do the rest.

2. Once your item sells, you won’t need to worry about buying a postage label. Instead, you’ll receive a QR code and prepaid printable label so you can choose what’s easiest.

3. Drop off your item at the nearest carrier location, or schedule a home collection and you’re done!

You’ll still be able to choose the carriers by going to Postage Preferences in your account settings. We recommend enabling all carriers for the most competitive postage rates.

 

Simple Delivery offers a faster and easier experience:

• Save 20% off postage costs*: Get competitive rates to offer standard and express delivery with Royal Mail and Evri.

• Full protection: Enjoy peace of mind with eBay's full coverage for items lost or damaged in transit, where we handle claims with buyers so you don’t have to.

• Free postage option: Choose if you want your buyer to pay for the label, or offer free postage and cover the cost.

• Prepaid and tracked labels: Labels come with automatic tracking, so buyers always know where their items are, and you get your funds faster.

• Flexible labels: Use a QR code for quick printing at drop-off locations, or easily print your own label at home.

• Positive feedback: From late April, you’ll automatically receive positive feedback for tracked transactions delivered on time, where no feedback has been left within 7 days and        no issues are reported, so you get the recognition you deserve. Learn more about this change.

 

Simple Delivery will apply to new eligible listings by private sellers in the UK, and from 7 April to any existing listings that are eligible. If you selected buyer-paid postage, this will stay the same when your listings are updated. If you’re covering the costs, they’ll be deducted from your sales. Click the button below to see what’s eligible.

 

We’re also updating our User Agreement and eBay delivery Terms and Conditions to reflect these changes. If you have any questions or concerns, just get in touch from the bottom of this page—we’re here to help.

 

Thanks for being part of the eBay community.

Edited April 1 by thebrig

[tauzero]

23 hours ago, Suburban Man said:

If it did, I missed it; possibly my error. just got a message saying I should have ‘opted out’ when I listed - which is no longer possible.

 

It could be that it's a bit too easy to just click through the option to confirm size and weight.

[Al Krow]

Just updating this thread to say that, as many of us will have now figured out, eBay have not slashed fees, just shifted them from seller to buyer as obligatory "buyer protection". Buyers can look on other sites (e.g. Basschat) if they want to buy the same good without the additional costs.

 

Here's a worked example (excludeding P&P)

Old system - wait till you get 80% off variable fees before listing, and then the seller fee worked out at about 2.6%, so if you sold something for £500 you got £487

New system - buyer pays 10p plus 4% up to £300 and 2% above £300. So if they are looking to pay £500, then you would need to list it for approx. £484 (or if you list it for £500, the buyer will need to pay approx. £516)

[PaulWarning]

2 hours ago, Al Krow said:

Just updating this thread to say that, as many of us will have now figured out, eBay have not slashed fees, just shifted them from seller to buyer as obligatory "buyer protection". Buyers can look on other sites (e.g. Basschat) if they want to buy the same good without the additional costs.

 

Here's a worked example (excludeding P&P)

Old system - wait till you get 80% off variable fees before listing, and then the seller fee worked out at about 2.6%, so if you sold something for £500 you got £487

New system - buyer pays 10p plus 4% up to £300 and 2% above £300. So if they are looking to pay £500, then you would need to list it for approx. £484 (or if you list it for £500, the buyer will need to pay approx. £516)

maybe I'm being thick here but the buyer doesn't pay anything in my experience, do you mean selling fees?

[hiram.k.hackenbacker]

1 minute ago, PaulWarning said:

maybe I'm being thick here but the buyer doesn't pay anything in my experience, do you mean selling fees?

What you list it for, say £40, will not be what potential buyers see. They see it as £40 + a few quid.

[Jack]

3 minutes ago, PaulWarning said:

maybe I'm being thick here but the buyer doesn't pay anything in my experience, do you mean selling fees?

Nope, if it's a proper auction between private sellers ebay adds extras. Here's my selling information from something I sold last.

[tegs07]

On 01/10/2024 at 20:08, Kev said:

Its an interesting move.

 

I won't use eBay because of their buyer-biased policies making it mostly impossible to list with confidence anything that isn't As New, but this does at least make it somewhat viable to sell more expensive stuff on there.

Same. I think the last thing I sold was years ago. A wood burner listed as collection only due to the weight. Loads of enquiries about dimensions (listed in description) make (listed in description) and delivery costs.

One bloke really wanted it but couldn’t collect. In the end I agreed to his courier request only to find that they only accept goods on a palate, safely secured and plastic wrapped. Not something your average person has tucked away. Nevertheless I managed to find it all, took an afternoon off work, helped the courier manoeuvre it so the mini forklift could get it in the LORRY!!

 

Guy gave me a negative review due to time taken (3 days) for posting!! Ebay upheld this despite me letting them know I was a private seller and not in possession of a warehouse and pallets! No thanks.

[BigRedX]

Anyone moaning about what eBay fees should have a look at what a standard auction house charges buyers and sellers.

 

I've recently been looking at vintage furniture from my local auction house, who add between 27% and 30.3% to the hammer price depending on whether you are bidding in person or on-line (as well as VAT on some items) and then deduct 15% from the hammer price plus an additional £2.25 for an internet listing (AFAICS you can't not have an internet listing).

 

That means for an item that has a hammer price of £100, the buyer pays £127 if they attend the sale in person, and the seller gets £82.75. The auction house makes about 45% per listing sold.

 

The photos for the on-line auctions are generally one per item which has been taken at an angle to show it in the best possible way. When you attend the viewing many of the furniture items are significantly damaged in the parts that can't be seen the photograph. There are also no weights or measurements given in the on-line listing, and the only way to work out if a piece is suitable for you needs to go and look at anything you are interested in person.

Edited 12 hours ago by BigRedX

[PaulWarning]

1 hour ago, Jack said:

Nope, if it's a proper auction between private sellers ebay adds extras. Here's my selling information from something I sold last.

oh right, thinking about it I've only bought off business sellers recently, no buyer protection fee 

[Dad3353]

My most recent purchase from LeBonCoin (GumTree equivalent in France...) was a table-top freezer, this week, listed at 50€. I drove to collect it, and handed over a 50€ note, job done. My most recent before that was an electric lawnmower, for a friend, listed at 20€. I drove to collect it, and handed over a 20€ note. Job done. Just sayin'. 

[Happy Jack]

2 minutes ago, Dad3353 said:

My most recent purchase from LeBonCoin (GumTree equivalent in France...) was a table-top freezer, this week, listed at 50€. I drove to collect it, and handed over a 50€ note, job done. My most recent before that was an electric lawnmower, for a friend, listed at 20€. I drove to collect it, and handed over a 20€ note. Job done. Just sayin'. 

 

Yeh, but driving 300km to save 10 Euros, well I dunno ...

 

😉

[Dad3353]

4 minutes ago, Happy Jack said:

Yeh, but driving 300km to save 10 Euros, well I dunno ...

 

😉

 

Look, you want to buy second-hand stuff or not..? 

 

...

 

 

 

(And 300km in my EV costs 3€, total distance for both items was <100km.  ...)

Edited 10 hours ago by Dad3353

[Dan Dare]

5 hours ago, Dad3353 said:

Look, you want to buy second-hand stuff or not..? 

 

This. If I buy second-hand stuff, I don't expect it to be delivered to my door. I collect, inspect and pay cash. Obviously, I wouldn't buy something worth £20 if it was 100 miles away, unless it was the bargain of the century and hugely under-priced.

Edited 5 hours ago by Dan Dare

[Dan Dare]

Aaand just encountered another eBay scam. Not perpetrated by sellers, but by eBay itself. They charge a "buyer protection fee" of 7.5% on everything you buy. I've just "won" something (collection only and not too far away) and asked the seller it I pay cash when I collect. He would rather I paid through eBay, so I had to pay it. Wasn't a large sum, but it sticks in my craw. Were the item being posted and there was a chance it could be lost or damaged, it wouldn't be so bad, but it's collection only, so I don't need "protection". B@stards.

Edited 2 hours ago by Dan Dare