itu Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 Dark sound emits under 20 lumens to a surface that receives less than 5 lux. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackroadkill Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 For me it would be a fat bottom, a tight-ish waist and a rounded top half. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycloud Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 On 20/10/2023 at 22:54, tauzero said: I have absolutely no idea what that means. It's nebulous and means whatever you want it to mean. The only way I've ever been able to understand another person when they use these sort of descriptors is to be in the room and listen to what they play or change to know what it means to them. And even then, not always. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 18 hours ago, tauzero said: So faint, dull, and lacklustre. Many describe Pino’s P bass sound as dark. I don’t think anyone would use faint, dull or lacklustre. If they did, surely it’d result in a trip to BC jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bay Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Do you feel it (physically not emotionally) as much as hear it? That’s dark. Bright is the opposite….. At least that’s what it means to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chienmortbb Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 14 hours ago, itu said: Dark sound emits under 20 lumens to a surface that receives less than 5 lux. I think you are being a little light-hearted. #Seriously though, your humour is even more impressive as English is not your first language 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulderpet Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) For me this epitomises the term dark https://youtu.be/yCd1vXsvkV4?si=HjmTdyQUaLG_SXHk Kings of Leon charmer for anyone that doesn't want to click on the link Edited October 22, 2023 by shoulderpet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I don't think it matters. I'll take whatever you think "dark" means with regard to sound and disregard it because it is unlikely to tally with what I think it means. Which is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, shoulderpet said: For me this epitomises the term dark https://youtu.be/yCd1vXsvkV4?si=HjmTdyQUaLG_SXHk Kings of Leon charmer for anyone that doesn't want to click on the link How can I tell what the pickup sounds like with all that distortion over the top of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 7 hours ago, shoulderpet said: For me this epitomises the term dark https://youtu.be/yCd1vXsvkV4?si=HjmTdyQUaLG_SXHk Kings of Leon charmer for anyone that doesn't want to click on the link The current Gibson Thunderbird pickups (well, 80s onwards) are the epitome of dark tone IMHO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleabag Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Possibly dark , but not lacking in tone. Certainly not woolly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5_2s_giF_U 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 It's extremely difficult to quantify the nuances of tone by application of verbs; somewhat akin to trying to describe colour to a blind person. Interesting an earlier post alluded to Alice In Chains. I remember listening to Dirt years ago and thinking (at the time) that Mike Starr's tone was quite dark, without any context as to what dark actually means. I suppose it's simply heavy on bass frequencies, plus a bit of overdrive. In truth it's really not that different to the tone Steve Priest was using during the golden era of The Sweet (Sweet F*nny Adams/Desolation Boulevard), 20 years earlier. As time has gone on - and given how businesses like Darkglass have curated and developed circuitry to create extremely 'dark' tones - Starr's tone has become less dark. This is much like how what passed for heavy metal in the 1970s could now pass as radio friendly pop/rock. About the only terminology that hits home for me is something I started using a few years ago. Ponk. It just seems to sum up the burpy/muted tone that extends from Motown through The Carpenters and even the baritone of Wichita Lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, NancyJohnson said: It just seems to sum up the burpy/muted tone that extends from Motown through The Carpenters and even the bass of Wichita Lineman. FTFY 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 For those getting caught up on the semantics of this, bright has no dictionary definition when it comes to sound. Dark is the new heft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cosmo Valdemar said: FTFY 😁 Oooh. I honestly thought he'd used a baritone guitar on that. So there's two channels of bass, then. The ponk on the intro/left channel is Campbell playing Danelectro Longhorn (apparently). Carol Kaye played a regular Precision on it. This is quite beautiful: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Give me dark, warm and punchy every time. Just like the original Bartolini pickups and preamp I put in my Precision in the late 80's. Lovely sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushbo Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) On 21/10/2023 at 16:30, tauzero said: https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-opposite-of/bright.html dim, faint, unbright, unbrilliant, dull, lacklustre So faint, dull, and lacklustre. I'd love to see the sales assistant's face if you went in to a guitar shop and after trying out a bass you said, "That's OK, but have you got something a bit more faint, dull, and lacklustre." ...to be honest, every time I've ever seen the term "dark" being used to describe bass tone, I've scratched my head. And yet I know what a bright tone is. Hey ho. Edited October 23, 2023 by rushbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoulderpet Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 On 22/10/2023 at 13:48, tauzero said: How can I tell what the pickup sounds like with all that distortion over the top of it? Ok, try the below video but basically an Epiphone Thunderbird https://youtu.be/EdI6EU-gYd8?si=ENCJpE81--hqrOFy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 6 hours ago, NancyJohnson said: Oooh. I honestly thought he'd used a baritone guitar on that. So there's two channels of bass, then. The ponk on the intro/left channel is Campbell playing Danelectro Longhorn (apparently). Carol Kaye played a regular Precision on it. This is quite beautiful: That bass solo doesn't sound like a standard Dano Longhorn to me, definitely a 6 string bass variant to my ears. My Squier VI sounds very similar, but I have read Glenn Campbell borrowed Carol Kay's 6 string Dano bass for that solo. It could have been one of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 The sound of the angels blowing the trumpets that heralds the apocalypse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Baloney Balderdash said: The sound of the angels blowing the trumpets that heralds the apocalypse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 The sound of Suella's soul. Apologies, politics. Will get my coat. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) On 21/10/2023 at 17:30, tauzero said: https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-opposite-of/bright.html dim, faint, unbright, unbrilliant, dull, lacklustre So faint, dull, and lacklustre. Context matters, in this context sound. And as someone pointed out it is very much like explaining color to a blind person, just in this case deaf. Painters actually know what they are talking about, it isn't just the fancy bull crap it might sound to an ignorant. Edited October 24, 2023 by Baloney Balderdash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 28 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Context matters, in this context sound. And as some pointed out it is very much like explaining color to a blind person, just in this case deaf. Painters actually know what they are talking about, it isn't just the fancy bull crap it might sound to an ignorant. So I'm deaf and ignorant? Or is it that you are incapable of a definition so you're chucking out insults? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 40 minutes ago, tauzero said: So I'm deaf and ignorant? Or is it that you are incapable of a definition so you're chucking out insults? Yes, that's exactly what I am saying! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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