waynepunkdude Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Right my band are quite established, never going to go anywhere but get some good support slots so I'm happy with that. The guitarist has just graduated as a 'graphic designer' and takes everything far too seriously and basically thinks he knows everything, he doesn't take input any more, if anyone comes up with an idea he will say "I like it but lets go my way" now he is in another band with the drummer from this band (I was in it too but I left because I hated being in another band with him) they had a gig the other day and someone in the crowd videoed it and put it on Youtube everyone in that band was happy that someone took the time, he saw it and sent the guy an email basically telling him where he went wrong in making the video and that the camera should always be pointed at the band. That is crossing a huge line for me so I'm left with a choice I can either leave or ask the guys to carry on without him, the drummer is my best friend and he is pissed off with him too. /rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1011920' date='Nov 4 2010, 12:21 PM']Right my band are quite established, never going to go anywhere but get some good support slots so I'm happy with that. The guitarist has just graduated as a 'graphic designer' and takes everything far too seriously and basically thinks he knows everything, he doesn't take input any more, if anyone comes up with an idea he will say "I like it but lets go my way" now he is in another band with the drummer from this band (I was in it too but I left because I hated being in another band with him) they had a gig the other day and someone in the crowd videoed it and put it on Youtube everyone in that band was happy that someone took the time, he saw it and sent the guy an email basically telling him where he went wrong in making the video and that the camera should always be pointed at the band. That is crossing a huge line for me so I'm left with a choice I can either leave or ask the guys to carry on without him, the drummer is my best friend and he is pissed off with him too. /rant[/quote] i always see it that there are sooooo many musicians, sack the bugger and find someone with less of an ego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbird13 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1011920' date='Nov 4 2010, 12:21 PM']The guitarist has just graduated as a 'graphic designer' and takes everything far too seriously and basically thinks he knows everything,[/quote] A designer who thinks they know everything - never heard of that before sounds like you and the drummer should split and try to find another guitarist who isnt an idiot ( might take a bit of time though ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote name='thunderbird13' post='1011932' date='Nov 4 2010, 12:26 PM']sounds like you and the drummer should split and try to find another guitarist who isnt an idiot ( might take a bit of time though )[/quote] +1 Once resentment sets in, its difficult to shake off and the fun of being in the band will never be the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodaxe Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Bin him. Guitarists? £1 a bowl mate. Your banjo player is due for a rude wake-up call by the sounds of it. Having a degree in GD is no guarantee of getting anything decent unless he's also a s**t-hot web coder & actionscript developer as far as I can judge at the moment. Some pretty shonky pay rates on offer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Life's too short to spend time with people you don't get on with. Talk to the rest of the band and see if they're of a like mind to you & sticksman. If they are, show banjo the door. If they aren't, walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 If you and him split up who gets custody of the drummer? Won't anybody think of the drummers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low End Bee Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 I think you've already answered the question. Your a very good player and a nice bloke Wayne. You'll be an asset to another band. Hopefully the drummer will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaypup Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Can we see the video and the comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_skezz Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote name='Bloodaxe' post='1011943' date='Nov 4 2010, 12:33 PM']Bin him. Guitarists? £1 a bowl mate.[/quote] Exactly...therefore no-one will miss him should he go missing...or maybe meet an unfortunate accident... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 If you have to ask then it's time to quit. Keep tight with the drummer though - they're not ten a penny like guitarists... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer61 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1011920' date='Nov 4 2010, 12:21 PM']Right my band are quite established, never going to go anywhere but get some good support slots so I'm happy with that. The guitarist has just graduated as a 'graphic designer' and takes everything far too seriously and basically thinks he knows everything, he doesn't take input any more, if anyone comes up with an idea he will say "I like it but lets go my way" now he is in another band with the drummer from this band (I was in it too but I left because I hated being in another band with him) they had a gig the other day and someone in the crowd videoed it and put it on Youtube everyone in that band was happy that someone took the time, he saw it and sent the guy an email basically telling him where he went wrong in making the video and that the camera should always be pointed at the band. That is crossing a huge line for me so I'm left with a choice I can either leave or ask the guys to carry on without him, the drummer is my best friend and he is pissed off with him too. /rant[/quote] Isn't he your singer too? If he is that's a mighty big hole to fill. I did that about 4 years ago and we ended up going from a 4 piece to a 5 piece = less cash. But the normal advice on here has to be life's to short, start a new project with a more democratic decision making process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1011920' date='Nov 4 2010, 01:21 PM']Right my band are quite established, never going to go anywhere but get some good support slots so I'm happy with that. The guitarist has just graduated as a 'graphic designer' and takes everything far too seriously and basically thinks he knows everything, he doesn't take input any more, if anyone comes up with an idea he will say "I like it but lets go my way" ...... /rant[/quote] I've struggled on with too many line-ups which started as a democracy only for one member to, basically, claim the band as 'theirs'. Leave now rather than later, IMHO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted November 4, 2010 Author Share Posted November 4, 2010 Cheers guys as always the answer is obvious, just been talking with the drummer (I work with him) think we are gonna go for something new in the new year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 The thing about guitarists that I don't get is the self-importance. There are lots of guitarists - far more than bassists, vocalists & drummers put together. So why don't they grasp quite how [b]replaceable[/b] they are? Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1012032' date='Nov 4 2010, 02:37 PM']The thing about guitarists that I don't get is the self-importance. There are lots of guitarists - far more than bassists, vocalists & drummers put together. So why don't they grasp quite how [b]replaceable[/b] they are? Jon.[/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbird13 Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote name='Bassassin' post='1012032' date='Nov 4 2010, 01:37 PM']The thing about guitarists that I don't get is the self-importance. There are lots of guitarists - far more than bassists, vocalists & drummers put together. So why don't they grasp quite how [b]replaceable[/b] they are? Jon.[/quote] I honestly believe that the [b]majority[/b] of guitarists are so focused on their own little part ( the dreaded guitar solo ) that they genuinely dont get the fact that there is a song going on around them ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 Come on, they're not all this bad. I play in a rock band with two guitarists and we all have the same attitude of "you need to tell me if it's sh*t" and we all tell each other when it is. No egos whatsoever. Youngest 36, oldest (me) 58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burrito Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 [quote name='Rich' post='1011945' date='Nov 4 2010, 12:34 PM']Life's too short to spend time with people you don't get on with. Talk to the rest of the band and see if they're of a like mind to you & sticksman. If they are, show banjo the door. If they aren't, walk.[/quote] I'm with Rich 100% here and this is basically the mantra that I live my life by (ok, just the first half and the general sentiment). [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1011995' date='Nov 4 2010, 01:09 PM']Cheers guys as always the answer is obvious, just been talking with the drummer (I work with him) think we are gonna go for something new in the new year.[/quote] Smart decision. Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 As everyone said..lose the guitarist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4-string-thing Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 The old guitarist in our band was a mouthy, arrogant, obnoxious jerk, who used to announce his arrival at rehearsals by shouting "OK, THE TALENT HAS ARRIVED!" After a few months, we split the band up and re-formed a few weeks later with a new guitarist.... He wasn't best pleased when he found out, and has spent the last few weeks trying to poach our other guitarist for his new "band" Needless to say, everyone is much happier and we have a lot more enthusiasm nowdays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matski Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1011920' date='Nov 4 2010, 01:21 PM']The guitarist has just graduated as a 'graphic designer' and takes everything far too seriously and basically thinks he knows everything, he doesn't take input any more, if anyone comes up with an idea he will say "I like it but lets go my way"[/quote] Prepare him for the reality of life as a graphic designer: tell him at 9pm that you need 4 songs written by 8am the next morning, let him do exactly what he wants to do, and then piece by piece change every element of everything he creates until it is nothing like his original creation but just how you want it to be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 In your situation, either sack him, or get someone to say what you all require of each other as a band, and that anyone not fulfilling that is essentially handing their resignation in. I had exactly the same situation in an old band where everything our guitarist said was "I`m not" "I won`t" "I don`t think that" "In my opinion" etc. Never "should we" "what do we all think". There was never any consideration for any of the rest of the band, it was all about him. We`d already started working on the premise that the next time he refused to play a gig, the rest of the band would do it as a 4-piece, and accept the obvious resignation. Luckily, it never came to that, as he left, but I`d never work with someone like that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted December 6, 2010 Author Share Posted December 6, 2010 Kind of started a new band on Saturday, formed on Saturday morning had a gig Saturday night. [url="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mexican-Wave/166491390053200"]http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mexican-Wave/166491390053200[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Im late to the party! Sorry. Sack him, if you really cant get on. Keep the drummer. Guitarists are everywhere, as are vocalists (when it comes to the punk/hardcore scene anyway). Hope it sorts itself out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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