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Bass not cutting through? Loudness could be the answer
Stub Mandrel replied to Phil Starr's topic in Amps and Cabs
Damn you folks, sent me onto a deep dive where I found this, which is a partial and imperfect answer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weber–Fechner_law As a biologist I would say one reason why the ear can cope with both a huge range of sound levels and doesn't respond linearly to volume is that it has tiny muscles that 'tighten up' the system to mitigate damage by 'turning down the volume'. I looked into this in a bit more detail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_reflex The reflex clicks in for sounds over the threshold (which can vary between 70 and 100dB). A sound 20dB above the threshold might be reduced by 15dB. A reduction of up to 20dB is possible. It takes 2-3 seconds to click in (which is why being close to drum hits is just so horrible). There are lots of subtleties. Also, it click in automatically to give ~20dB reduction just before you speak, so if you are expecting sudden bangs, try talking to yourself... -
PaulKing started following Mic for live and quick recording? , Micing for home / studio recording and Oiling a double bass
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Prompted by @Duckyincarnate and @Beedster and @Ramirez over in another thread, who can share experiences with mic placement and mic choice for recording? I've settled on a set-up that seems to work for me, though I still use some processing in the DAW. 2 mics and a piezo. A shitty old sE condenser at bridge height, about 12" from bridge, straight in front. Its nothing special but just seems to cope with the bass well. A nice AKG P420 just above right hand height, about 12" from fingerboard, pointing down towards hand. Underwood piezo thru Schatten Min-Pre. Then I use a wee bit of EQ and maybe some AO 'Re-Life' (it's magic!) and SD 'Fresh Air' plug-in to soften the mids and add presence. Sometimes have to phase shift one of them. I bought a lovely GAP R1 ribbon specifically for bass, but I never got quite so nice a tone as with the combo above. Might try it again though, now I've settle on positions. I went through so many alternative positions and distances, watched all the videos, Herve Jeanne's StringMatrix especially. What works for you?
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New Model Army - Thunder and Consolation. The band was a trio at the time (with a violin player coming in on a few of the album tracks) but the interplay between bass and drums is exceptional. Sounds like a P bass with a pick cranked up loud, locked in with a really “busy but good” drummer. Try “Family” and “The Ballad of Bodmin Pill” for starters. Inspirational stuff.
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I used gunstock oil recently. I really like the finish. It HAS darkened the colour a bit, but in a good way (it looks more vintaged). I'm happy.
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This is sufficiently interesting to warrant its own post. There's probably been one before, but I'm gonna raise the issue again, without hi-jacking this thread.
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nikon F started following 2025 SE Bass Basheroonie! Sunday 9/11/25 *CONFIRMED*
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2025 SE Bass Basheroonie! Sunday 9/11/25 *CONFIRMED*
nikon F replied to NancyJohnson's topic in Events
i can get it if you like ,,,,i'm in sittingbourne ,,,i don't mind running it over to you ,,,, -
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Maybe the Nux Plexi, or Joyo British Sound for Marshall Mids
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Bass not cutting through? Loudness could be the answer
Bill Fitzmaurice replied to Phil Starr's topic in Amps and Cabs
That's one, University of Salford is another. That was quantified by Bell Labs, which invented the dB, as in deci Bell. -
WAYNESWORLD started following SIRE Z7 5 string Mint A1 condition
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Fs My Sire z7 5 string Mint. This is less than a year old and only used a few times. It is in immaculate condition and still has plastic on the scratch plate so any trial. There are plenty of vids on you tube to check out. collection from Stoke. Postage available at buyers expense . Guessing £15-20 insured. SPECIFICATIONS Body Body Material: Alder Body Shape: Sire Z-Bass Shape Body Finish: Mint Neck Neck Material: Hard Maple Neck Shape: C-Shape Scale Length: 34” Fingerboard Material: Hard Maple Edgeless™ (Rolled Fretboard Edges) Fingerboard Radius: 12” Number of Frets Total: 22 (2.7mm Medium Jumbo Stainless) String Nut: Bone, 45mm width Inlay: Black Dot (Maple FB) or White Dot (Rosewood FB) Neck Joint: Five Bolt Steel Plate Electronics Pickups: Sire Premium J+MM Pickup Set Preamp: Marcus Miller Heritage-3 with Middle Frequency Control Controls: Volume/Tone, Blender, Treble, Middle/Freq, Bass Knobs: Aluminium Knob Set Hardware Bridge: Sire Premium MM Bridge Tuning Gear: Premium Open Gear Hardware Finish: Chrome Pickguard: Mint Green
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That works, it's called the Sub Crawl. https://www.audioholics.com/home-theater-connection/crawling-for-bass-subwoofer-placement
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Get a multi fx with multiple built in amp sims as well numerous distortion effects and see what works. I use an HX Stomp which would definitely do the job, but there are probably other more recent units available that will give the same plethora of options, some of them are probably cheaper too.
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Thanks Luke! What's the issue with the C4 tracking, for those of us who have never owned one?
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Rexel Matador started following Massive filth
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I have a Darkglass Microtubes X Ultra - it processes the lows and highs separately - Compression on the lows, overdrive on the highs. Sounds immense and can get plenty filthy if you want it to. They're not cheap, but there's a mini version which I think is basically the same concept.
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I had no idea if he's a member on here or anything so kept my thoughts to myself - but would agree - it's painful watching! @Kev - skip through and miss bits! My take, reinforces what I thought - Enzo X probably not deigned for bass... C4, the thing that annoyed me with the tracking you could hear on the video (bought and sold one twice) FI4 - sounds best to me and can do a lot MXR - pretty much on par and can do less with a simpler interface.
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One of these keeps coming up for sale near me; I think the seller takes it down if it hasn't sold within a couple of weeks and then puts it back up again a few weeks later. I've been tempted a few times, they look cool.
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I just looked at the DFSchat forum, and they have a topic called sofas on the bass.
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TRBboy started following Ibanez BTB uncomfortable to play?
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They're great basses, but 35" scale with wide-ish spacing, and overall just feel 'big' to me, but I wouldn't say uncomfortable as such. You need to try the model you have your eye on really and judge for yourself. I know personally I would feel more comfortable with an SR than a BTB.
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Alanbass started following Poor man's UA 6176 - Origin Effects DCX + Warm Audio Pedal76
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@jimbobothy Hi, I've got the origin effects bass comp and thinking about getting the DCX bass pedal. I think that you have this combination. Wondered if you could offer a view about what the EQ is like please? Like you I wouldn't be using drive much at all as I much prefer a cleaner sound. Appreciate any views you are able to share and I realise that this is all highly subjective! Alan
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ossyrocks started following Rega Planar 1 Plus Turntable - As New
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Mine doesn't drop the signal, and it isn't touch sensitive or anything, it is just very noisy, If I connect the receiver to a normal 5M+ guitar lead via an adapter, it is absolutely fine, but that really isn't the point! Its fine for at home though, so now it is my home device. It was actually ok if you didn't use overdrive or something gigging, as the noise was below the guitarists noise, but put any drive on it and it got very bad.
