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Caveat I’m not really that sure I know what I’m taking about she it comes to individual component costs etc but I have a couple of LBA 2020s transformers which add an audible impact and I think were about £90 but to buy the actual individual component form LBA is about $70 on average depending on the transformer. I digress. I get the discussion on price. Custom transformer are expense to make probably more expensive than sticking a tube in a pedal for the sake of it having tubes in it. There’s two custom TX’ers in this unit. The classic (very satisfying) clicky/stepped knobs like in studio gear are more expensive. I’d dare say the components are more expensive in this unit as well and from what I’ve learned so far it’s been made to be a high quality unit. A Behringer/TC rat clone is about £23 but a Jam Rattler is £229… I’ve not noticed the same kinda chat on Jam pedal threads going on about the cost. It’s been done again on the recent origin thread - Bassrig versus an affordable multifx and it’s a natural enough discussion to have. Price versus value etc. but it’s been done to death. A Caveman BP1 is about £750 and one could argue the Mantle has more features so comparatively it’s ’better value’ in this price range for this type of unit versus the Rat clones mentioned. Someone mentioned it’s cheaper than a Noble and having the transformers it might be a better suited unit for a wider range of players and more reliable as there’s no tubes involved -no additional cost down the line replacing tubes! Its got a well thought out EQ which does make sense and feels very studio-y! Not for everyone maybe but I like the LPF and HPF design. If you’re not into spending £750 on a bass let alone a pedal this was never for you. All opinions are ‘valid’ and I don’t really enjoy posting on these types of discussion as it’s all a bit pointless. I have a tube preamp which has 4 tubes, a custom Cinemag transformer, three band eq and I’d say it’s a far better ‘value’ unit than a Noble, ‘more versatile’, sounds great and isn’t the one trick pony (but what a lovely trick) the Noble is. I’d love to play through the Mantle and I wonder how the feel of it would be compared to a NAM capture of it. We’ll see them appear soon enough I’d say.

Awesome, thanks for that! The layout looks identical but some of the components are different like the DemonFX using a 74HC573D where the Sonic Research is using a MM74HC. The smaller visible board seems to handle the display of the pedal. The larger board underneath deals with the actual tuning circuitry. It's interesting that some of the board underneath looks identical (the traces, vias, and R26/C15 up top, R39 bottom right), but also a lot of the circuit underneath the jacks is missing. I might need to grab one of each and do a proper teardown to see what's going on and where any latency is coming from. It could be a lag in the display circuit due to the different chips, or a slower tuning circuit if a different schematic is being used (or the same circuit with different chips again)

Thanks @Woodinblack - super helpful as always! I guess the question is whether we use our own PA which we've been doing for several years there, and augment it with their in-house PA which extends into other rooms, or just try to use their in-house PA. I was thinking the former for the first time so our own PA would be taking the main desk outs as usual, and their in house PA effectively becomes a glorified venue monitor? Given that we don't pan our outputs, I'm assuming that a single "monitor" lead into their house PA from one of our aux outs using their cable should therefore be fine?

Knackered string, I’ve had this with G strings (an Ernie Ball) before. The G saddle should the furthest forward (towards the neck).

Yep, the black one. He still had that when we did the London Bass Show interview in 2018. Building an idea for a new video...

There was also Stingray around at that time, which, IIRC, Thunder bought for him. However, I think I only ever saw and heard that bass once.

Just for clarity I doubt DG is comping 5 solos because of mistakes, or any shred of sloppiness. He'll be playing a different thing each time and comping the best bits.

Will be absolutely fine 👍

True, so I'd spray the inside with contact cleaner, including in the pots.

I’ve heard this before so good to have it confirmed. If it’s good enough for one of the greatest guitarists in the world, it’s probably ok. I’d also point people to videos of all the greats. I’ve seen enough Jaco clips to see he’s not always super smooth and there are mistakes in his live playing, same as all of us.

F.A.B!

Another Bob Mintzer chart, the tune is 'Yeah, Yeah, Yeah', from the 2013 live recording 'Get Up!). Not too challenging, just good counting practice. The bass player is Will Lee. https://bilbosbassbites.co.uk/yeah-yeah-yeah-bob-mintzer-big-band/

Hes going to burn well!

Help help. I've just bought a Vintera II Precision. It's lovely. The stock strings (I assume Fender - roundwound) were fine, all played nicely with great intonation. I've taken those off and replaced with La Bella low tension flats (100-42). Everything sounds great, but the G string (and only the G string) was hugely sharp at the 12th fret. No problem, I started to adjust the saddle. But, to get this thing to intonate at the 12th fret, I had to move the saddle back (i.e. away from the neck) by a crazy amount. More than I have ever seen, and it looked crazy compared to the other 3 saddles. Anyway, no problem (I thought), this was now intonated perfectly at the 12th fret and open string. However, frets 7-9 were hugely sharp. So, now the string is in tune, then becomes increasingly sharp until the 9th fret, then flattens back to pitch by the time I hit fret 12. Strange. So, I put the original Fender(?) roundwound G string back on, and adjusted the saddle back to where it was, and it's perfect. No issue at all. Now I have taken that original string off, replaced with the La Bella G string but kept the saddle where it works for the Fender string (thinking that I had done some wierd restringing job). But, I am back to where I started. It's in tune when played open, then massively sharp at the 12th fret. I adjust the saddle to achieve pitch both open and at fret 12, but again it's hugely sharp 7-9th frets. Like, unusably sharp. The string is correctly seated in the nut and saddle, and appropriately wound. I have tried raising the action a little, then re-pitching. The neck looks fine (obviously, the bass behaves with the roundwound string). So, I am at a loss. I don't quite understand the physics of this. The string gauges are perhaps a little out, but likely only 0.42 (La Bella) vs about 0.45. Regardless of the physics - can anyone help me find a solution. I've got a recording session on Monday(!). Is this just a dud string perhaps? Thanks!

That was his bass of choice for quite a while.

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Which one is Virgil? Poor guy!:)

Having worked with David Gilmour, I can tell you that he does 5 passes of a solo and creates the final version from those 5. All 5 are amazing of course.

An album lasts generally less than an hour - who was the last group to do their recording in an hour?