skilamalink Posted October 22 Posted October 22 I would never buy a second hand Fender where the serial number is not in the Fender database. I think ease of resale is a factor in your decision on whether to buy or not. You will have the same issue that the current seller is having. It appears to be accepted as kosher on BC but then that might restrict your potential buyer to being a member here. Selling via auction for example will not allow any extra info to be shared and you risk sellers demanding a refund. 2 1 Quote
Beedster Posted October 22 Posted October 22 28 minutes ago, skilamalink said: I would never buy a second hand Fender where the serial number is not in the Fender database. I think ease of resale is a factor in your decision on whether to buy or not. You will have the same issue that the current seller is having. It appears to be accepted as kosher on BC but then that might restrict your potential buyer to being a member here. Selling via auction for example will not allow any extra info to be shared and you risk sellers demanding a refund. Agreed, and I wouldn't buy that particular bass, because - and I know it's not hard evidence - the images feel wrong, I can't say what it is, but given that the serial number also doesn't check out plus the seller has already provided some misinformation, I would assume that while it's not a forgery as per Andy's previous comment (why bother when for the same costs you could forge Pre-CBS Fenders), I still suspect it may not be what it is presented as. Case candy etc? Not beyond the realms of possibility that someone could buy the real thing with case and case candy, and then slip a lookalike bitsa in the case and sell it on, I've heard less plausible theories turning out to be true Not saying it's not the real thing BTW, I am saying that I certainly wouldn't buy it given the photos and details provided. Quote
Geek99 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 42 minutes ago, Joe Nation said: The 9th and 12th markers look wonky to me, hopefully just stickers and not a permanent addition. My Fender knowledge doesn't extend as far as pickup placement or decal shapes. If they are stickers, then the seller should fess up if you ask about it. He may not know mine were pretty good Quote
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted October 22 Posted October 22 FWIW I don’t think it’s a squeer knockoff … Quote
Steve Browning Posted October 22 Posted October 22 Probably showing my ignorance here. The truss rod tool looks to be the hex type, which I would have expected only on a truss rod adjusted at the headstock end. There is no sign of it there on the bass being offered. Quote
Reggaebass Posted October 22 Posted October 22 12 minutes ago, Steve Browning said: Probably showing my ignorance here. The truss rod tool looks to be the hex type, which I would have expected only on a truss rod adjusted at the headstock end. There is no sign of it there on the bass being offered. Some also have the Allen key nut at the heel, pretty sure my 2014 jazz has that 1 Quote
SurroundedByManatees Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) Don't rely on the Fender Database, it's far from being watertight. Many serial numbers will come up as non existent or will give a totally different production year (the year error goes for Japanese instruments especially). I've had a Fender Highway model which I bought new that wasn't identified in the database. The same for a 2003 Jazz that was totally legit. Edited October 22 by SurroundedByManatees 1 Quote
SurroundedByManatees Posted October 22 Posted October 22 Some pictures of the neck and neck pocket Stamps could be helpful too btw. Quote
SurroundedByManatees Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) Edit: Did quote myself while not having anything useful to say. Edited October 22 by SurroundedByManatees Quote
Lozz196 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 2 hours ago, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said: This is true ! It’s a Gender Jazz Bass … Or maybe they`re a Gender Jazz Bass? 2 Quote
Piers_Williamson Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) Did Feddy Lee play a Gender Jazz? I can feel a Basschat Spoonerisms thread coming on! Edited October 22 by Piers_Williamson tidy up format 1 Quote
jonno1981 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 It’s not obviously a fake, the headstock and logo are the usual giveaways. The case is era correct, the candy is right, the body looks correct with the truss rod being at the heel (exception of non-original scratchplate), but the quality of the pics and the weird inlays are making me suspicious. £700 is a good price though as it looks in good condition. I’d insist on better pics or a video call with the seller to hear the history before exchanging any money. Quote
spencer.b Posted October 22 Posted October 22 Looks legit to me , would of had a white pickguard though I reckon Quote
Geek99 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 For £700 a scratch plate wouldn’t bother me. It’s the more important parts that I think are amiss. Quote
AndyTravis Posted October 23 Posted October 23 12 hours ago, Geek99 said: For £700 a scratch plate wouldn’t bother me. It’s the more important parts that I think are amiss. There’s nothing amiss. honestly…some dodgy inlay stickers and everyone loses their heads 😉😆 @bigmuff69 - Mark, if you want me to go and have a look let me know, assuming it’s local to you x 5 Quote
casapete Posted October 23 Posted October 23 2 hours ago, AndyTravis said: There’s nothing amiss. honestly…some dodgy inlay stickers and everyone loses their heads 😉😆 @bigmuff69 - Mark, if you want me to go and have a look let me know, assuming it’s local to you x Spot on Andy. The bass is for sale in the Hull area I believe, which may explain why nobody’s been to have a look at it? 2 Quote
Spodokomodoh Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Long time lurker, first time poster - had to make an account to send this one in. Courtesy of Fender's dealer portal, here's a date for this bass! The serial shows this bass an American standard jazz bass from the 15th of July, in the year 2000 Do what you will with this info, glad to be of help 3 3 Quote
bigmuff69 Posted October 23 Author Posted October 23 Thanks for all the advice,really appreciate it, 1 Quote
Reggaebass Posted October 23 Posted October 23 FWIW, from the not very clear pics I think it’s genuine, if the seller could check that the blocks are stickers ( which is quite easy ) , if they aren’t stickers then there’s something wrong and I’d stay away from it 1 Quote
AndyTravis Posted October 23 Posted October 23 3 hours ago, casapete said: Spot on Andy. The bass is for sale in the Hull area I believe, which may explain why nobody’s been to have a look at it? Ah, I won’t be going then 😆 1 Quote
Beedster Posted October 23 Posted October 23 3 hours ago, Spodokomodoh said: Long time lurker, first time poster - had to make an account to send this one in. Courtesy of Fender's dealer portal, here's a date for this bass! The serial shows this bass an American standard jazz bass from the 15th of July, in the year 2000 Do what you will with this info, glad to be of help Thanks and welcome @Spodokomodoh 🙏 1 Quote
Cosmo Valdemar Posted October 23 Posted October 23 3 hours ago, Spodokomodoh said: Long time lurker, first time poster - had to make an account to send this one in. Courtesy of Fender's dealer portal, here's a date for this bass! The serial shows this bass an American standard jazz bass from the 15th of July, in the year 2000 Do what you will with this info, glad to be of help Father Peewee Stairmaster? 1 Quote
TimR Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 23/10/2025 at 17:11, Reggaebass said: FWIW, from the not very clear pics I think it’s genuine, if the seller could check that the blocks are stickers ( which is quite easy ) , if they aren’t stickers then there’s something wrong and I’d stay away from it There is tons of lens barrellation on the photos. The machine heads don't line up. The two outer ones curve inwards. The inlays probably look odd for the same reason. Just ask for some photos of it not taken with a Nokia 3310. 1 Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 22/10/2025 at 09:20, skilamalink said: I would never buy a second hand Fender where the serial number is not in the Fender database. I think ease of resale is a factor in your decision on whether to buy or not. You will have the same issue that the current seller is having. It appears to be accepted as kosher on BC but then that might restrict your potential buyer to being a member here. Selling via auction for example will not allow any extra info to be shared and you risk sellers demanding a refund. You won't get far that way. The Fender database is useless. 1 Quote
Stub Mandrel Posted October 24 Posted October 24 On 22/10/2025 at 10:36, SurroundedByManatees said: Don't rely on the Fender Database, it's far from being watertight. Many serial numbers will come up as non existent or will give a totally different production year (the year error goes for Japanese instruments especially). I've had a Fender Highway model which I bought new that wasn't identified in the database. The same for a 2003 Jazz that was totally legit. Agreed. My Fender Performer which I've had since about 1992. None of my Squiers are listed. It's only relable for recent numbers. Quote
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