How do you know if music is AI.?

[bubinga5]

Hmm. Possibly obvious to some,  but this.? Can someone make this music from AI. 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/14KYBqWQsAv/

[Lozz196]

I can’t view FB as not a member, but chap who works at our rehearsal studio played us a song which was excellent, he just said to AI what he wanted and it did it exactly. Worrying imo

[bubinga5]

14 minutes ago, Lozz196 said:

I can’t view FB as not a member, but chap who works at our rehearsal studio played us a song which was excellent, he just said to AI what he wanted and it did it exactly. Worrying imo

This Lozz.? It's not the music from the link but.?  Impossible to tell from this..

 

Edited Saturday at 22:20 by bubinga5

[Dad3353]

19 minutes ago, bubinga5 said:

Hmm. Possibly obvious to some,  but this.? Can someone make this music from AI. 

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/14KYBqWQsAv/

 

I haven't listened (no Facebook, I'm afraid...), but... Does it matter..? There has been computer-generated music for decades, a whole cult of '12-bar' formula hits since before the Blues, and, of course, synthesisers replacing whole orchestras. It's music or not, no..? 

[Lozz196]

13 minutes ago, bubinga5 said:

This Lozz.? It's not the music from the link but.?  Impossible to tell from this..

 

The one at our rehearsal was a soft rock song, the guy just said what he wanted, what instruments/tempo/type of singer, and it did it. 
 

Re the clip above, it’s not the type of music I listen to so I couldn’t say whether AI or not, or if it is AI it’s been done well. 

[Crusoe]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clydz8d03dvo

[BTops]

People who know how to properly write promts with context etc can make music in minutes... Rick is no ai expert, but does a reasonable job in this tongue-in-cheek vid.

 

 

 

[Cato]

I suspect we're about to be hit by a tidal wave of AI generated music.

 

The idea you can potentially get an AI to write a hit song for you in minutes despite having zero musical ability has all the makings of a classic 'get rich quick' scheme.

 

Of course most of the resulting music won't get any commercial traction at all, but that won't stop large numbers of people churning the stuff out in the hope of getting that one track that hits the jackpot.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:17 by Cato

[Reggaebass]

I think we are already being flooded with it, my YT is about 90% reggae and I’d say half of that at the moment is AI, some of it is extremely good, it’s even had me looking up the artists which I hadn’t heard of but they don’t exist, they are also using pictures of famous artists to draw you in but it’s not them, I don’t know how they get away with that one 

[Gank Bass]

From an original music stand point does it really matter? Streaming has already ended the album/single sales business model.

 

There is money to be made with touring/merch/interactive services like patreon etc that bands are turning to of they want to pursue music as a career.

 

There is however catastrophic consequences for SFX/Foley artists, background music etc. These industries will go the way of graphic design as studios will always value profits over people 

 

Even in my day job working in manufacturing I see more and more ai tools coming in to replace various roles, admin/planning etc

 

It's sad to see but the monkey is out of the bottle now! 

 

 

 

 

[Hellzero]

I think that the problem is not AI generated music as it can and must be considered music if it really is.

 

The problem is the copyright of that music, because some lazy sods will pretend they own it, but this copyright is the property of AI as it's like ordering a concerto to a composer who will own the copyright of what's been ordered.

 

To date, there's no law about this, but it's about time to legislate for all AI generated art.

[lowdown]

This chap shows how he uses AI to his advantage and in fact, how it can be useful.

The video is forty minutes long, and personally I don't like his musical examples, but that's not really the point.

 

 

[Mrbigstuff]

It falls under the same argument as artwork, where it isn’t legally clear whether someone feeding AI your copyrighted work for it to regurgitate into something else is an infringement of copyright or becomes their work.

 

It’s harder still because thats what humans do!

[SumOne]

Give it a few years and it'll probably be impossible to tell if music is AI created.

 

I guess it'll mean that people making original music will need to up their game - no point doing anything generic and derivative.

 

Live bands might do alright, people will probably still want that interaction and 'realness'. 

 

[Burns-bass]

Aside from question of whether it’s art or not, AI will destroy the ‘incidental’ music industry and those are real jobs that will disappear. We should feel sorry for those people.

 

My business (journalism and copywriting) has been destroyed by AI. I’m lucky that I have a specialism and industry connections that will keep me on work for a few more years, but trust me it’s destroying livelihoods for real people. I have an estimated 2 years left doing my job. I’m actively retraining into a new career which isn’t as easy as you’d hope at 44.

 

Technological progress comes at a cost to real people (the many) while increasing profits for some (the few).

 

 

[Beer of the Bass]

On 23/08/2025 at 23:19, bubinga5 said:

This Lozz.? It's not the music from the link but.?  Impossible to tell from this..

 

 

The thumbnail image looks AI, something about the proportions of the lettering and the amount of yellow tones. It likes yellow, I don't know why. 

[BigRedX]

23 hours ago, Mrbigstuff said:

It falls under the same argument as artwork, where it isn’t legally clear whether someone feeding AI your copyrighted work for it to regurgitate into something else is an infringement of copyright or becomes their work.

 

It’s harder still because thats what humans do!

 

But surely we all learn to create art whether it be visual or audio starting off by copying what we see and hear and like? Certainly no-one in the 21st century is emerging fully formed doing completely brand new work without having gone through this learning process first. 

 

The way I see it AI is just like me at 14-15 where my "influences" were clearly on show in both the music and art I was making, and I was only a whisker away from plagiarism.

 

And even today I'll freely admit that if I see or hear something I like it will at some stage probably get incorporated into something I create. What experience has given me is the knowledge not to make it too obvious. AI hasn't learnt that yet and IMO will require a lot me resources and effort putting into it to reach that stage.

[Mrbigstuff]

11 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

 

But surely we all learn to create art whether it be visual or audio starting off by copying what we see and hear and like? Certainly no-one in the 21st century is emerging fully formed doing completely brand new work without having gone through this learning process first. 

 

The way I see it AI is just like me at 14-15 where my "influences" were clearly on show in both the music and art I was making, and I was only a whisker away from plagiarism.

 

And even today I'll freely admit that if I see or hear something I like it will at some stage probably get incorporated into something I create. What experience has given me is the knowledge not to make it too obvious. AI hasn't learnt that yet and IMO will require a lot me resources and effort putting into it to reach that stage.

I did say at the bottom of my response that it mimics how humans learn. The difference being while we take information a bit at a time, AI can read and digest large volumes very quickly.

 

The legal decision is can tech derived art be classified as art… luckily not my decision to make!

[Rosie C]

9 hours ago, SumOne said:

I guess it'll mean that people making original music will need to up their game - no point doing anything generic and derivative.

 

 

Yup. I'm an aspiring songwriter and I'd have been pretty pleased with myself with a couple of those Rick Beato AI songs. I will definitely have to up my game. Rick showed a song that was nearly completely machine generated, but I can imagine people feeding in their own lyrics, then have the AI system generate the tune & harmony, and learn to perform the song themselves, and it becomes a very blurred line between human and AI art.

Edited 35 minutes ago by Rosie C
Could not live with the appalling grammar

[Leonard Smalls]

Computer's done a pretty good job here!

 

 

[WinterMute]

They said the same things about Dylan going electric, synthesisers, MIDI, Non-linear recording systems, Autotune... They were all the death of music at one point or other.

 

AI will end up being a tool in the hands of people making music, and if it ever gets to the point where it comes up with anything as good a While My Guitar Gently Weeps or Tom Sawyer or Birdland or Beethoven's 5th by itself, then all the better, more good music to listen too.

 

Frankly, there is too much chaos and random chance in the creation of masterworks, I don't think AI will ever come close to rivalling that.

[Dan Dare]

2 hours ago, WinterMute said:

AI will end up being a tool in the hands of people making music

 

2 hours ago, WinterMute said:

Frankly, there is too much chaos and random chance in the creation of masterworks, I don't think AI will ever come close to rivalling that.

 

Agreed. Yes, there will be poor quality AI-created music, but there's plenty of crappy non-AI music. Musicians will use it as part of the creative process. Nobody is forced to use something AI-created in its original form. Bad musicians will, but the good ones will use it as one of many tools, together with those synths, etc, as you point out.