Bluewine Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Lozz196 said: She’s good. He’s a good guitarist. Should sell his mic tho. He reminds me of how I struggle with backing vocals. Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidbass Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I was a full time musician/music teacher in my early 20s and grew to hate music. As has been echoed above - I love it as a hobby and hate it as a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dclaassen Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, acidbass said: I was a full time musician/music teacher in my early 20s and grew to hate music. As has been echoed above - I love it as a hobby and hate it as a job. Been teaching school music since 1980 and loved almost everything about it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msb Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 In my 30’s I got tired of the local circuit. Cheap hotels , road food , and spending all of my time in a band vehicle became wearisome. So I decided that I’d sleep in my own bed and just take gigs in town. On my terms. And have a life. And was much happier. Now I’m not a big star , but I’m happy being a simple working class musician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco.EB Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 My 2 cents; I never have been a pro but I assume it might be easy nowadays with high speed internet... You can work at distance without even moving... i'm not sure if you can make a living with it as a "studio" recorder without gigging, but I know some pros (not bassists only) works that way ; a call, "make me this or that", send files, get files, send to producer ... etc... But I do realize making a living of it must implies a high level of notoriety ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 It's how I earn my living. All you need to do is drastically reduce your financial dependency. No expensive cars, no big house, no holidays, no drink or drugs, no fancy clothes, no hobbies. Anything the money you make doesn't cover, you need you take the odd bit of cash work here and there. In other words you have to really want it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 15/02/2024 at 12:11, Mickeyboro said: I reckon you’re better off where you are too. She can sing, but he can’t…. 9 hours ago, Lozz196 said: She’s good. He’s a good guitarist. Should sell his mic tho. Agreed, although I’m not that enamoured with his guitar playing either TBH. Loses all the simple beauty of Mike Campbell’s original by playing silly OTT flourishes. The female singer is rather good though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, stewblack said: It's how I earn my living. All you need to do is drastically reduce your financial dependency. No expensive cars, no big house, no holidays, no drink or drugs, no fancy clothes, no hobbies. Yup, that’s been more or less me for over 30 years! We’ve had many holidays in the south of France and the UK, and okay a drink is sometimes taken. My main hobby is walking so minimal expenditure there too. 😊 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 At my age now, no, even if I were coining it. Were I younger, and were I a pro earning good money then yes. Were I younger, and a pro but barely scraping by then no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewine Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 20 hours ago, casapete said: Agreed, although I’m not that enamoured with his guitar playing either TBH. Loses all the simple beauty of Mike Campbell’s original by playing silly OTT flourishes. The female singer is rather good though. My band played a double bill show with them last summer. She came up to me and complimented me on our set . She was wearing a long floor length dress ,big floppy hat and sun glasses. She doesn't get down to the shorts and stuff until she goes on stage . She puts a large fan in front of herself to blow her hair around. Daryl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb625 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just now, Bluewine said: She puts a large fan in front of herself to blow her hair around. Does the fan have to stand there all night? What happens if they need to use the bathroom, or get a drink from the bar? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluewine Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 2 hours ago, jimmyb625 said: Does the fan have to stand there all night? What happens if they need to use the bathroom, or get a drink from the bar? I say she gets a A for effort. I think the fan is a pretty good idea for enhancing her stage presence. Daryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gasman Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Well, I have no issue with those white shorts at all @Bluewine, but I was concerned that the bass player seemed to be afflicted by a post-Vindaloo stomach-cramp requiring him to crouch and gurn at the audience in apparent agony - I hope he made it through the set with unstained undercrackers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, Gasman said: Well, I have no issue with those white shorts at all @Bluewine, but I was concerned that the bass player seemed to be afflicted by a post-Vindaloo stomach-cramp requiring him to crouch and gurn at the audience in apparent agony - I hope he made it through the set with unstained undercrackers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 33 minutes ago, Gasman said: . . . . I was concerned that the bass player seemed to be afflicted by a post-Vindaloo stomach-cramp requiring him to crouch and gurn at the audience in apparent agony - I hope he made it through the set with unstained undercrackers... If I struck a pose like that I'd need someone to help me up afterwards!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The one thing this thread has made clear is that it's not a matter of would you... the pros have worked like foooook and been prepared to make huge sacrifices (sometimes economic, sometimes artistic) to be pro. Those who were destined to be pro are pro, the rest of us are not, no matter how much we may like to think that we prefer not to be 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassfinger Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Many of us made such sacrifies and devoded such effort and talent into other fields and have been a success. That being the case, for some it will indeed be a case of prefer not to be. I'm good enough for sure, but at my age when I'm financially secure and retired anyway...why would I? I've not even made the effort because I really would prefer not to be with my 57th birthday on the horizon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonK Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 "keep your passion as your hobby but not your career because it will be more satisfying" https://theconversation.com/why-putting-your-artistic-calling-on-hold-might-not-always-be-such-a-bad-idea-192203 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 I have no idea what I’d do to relax if playing was my job. There’s nothing better to get over a crap day in the office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 hours ago, Doctor J said: The one thing this thread has made clear is that it's not a matter of would you... the pros have worked like foooook and been prepared to make huge sacrifices (sometimes economic, sometimes artistic) to be pro. Those who were destined to be pro are pro, the rest of us are not, no matter how much we may like to think that we prefer not to be 🙂 My thought process was I could either continue being poor and rent in London, or get an office job to build a secure future and have time and money for my other interests. If I had loved every single minute of the gigs I played I might have made the sacrifice but I didn’t. I’m pretty sure that is choice over destiny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 3 hours ago, fretmeister said: I have no idea what I’d do to relax if playing was my job. You'd get on stage and play your socks off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 (edited) 45 minutes ago, chris_b said: You'd get on stage and play your socks off. So your suggestion to a replacement hobby is knitting? Edited February 18 by Baloney Balderdash 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbiscuits Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I’d have loved to be a pro musician for a living, and if I could go back I would even now. Despite all the pitfalls I’d need to experience and find out for myself. But on the flip side, I’ve never had my love of playing music ruined by the business side of it, so maybe the route I’ve taken as a semi-pro muso was actually the right one, albeit unintentional. As Sir Mick of Jagger once said, you can’t always get what you want but you just might get what you need…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul S Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 For me, absolutely not. Even if I had started early, not late, in life - the lifestyle of a professional musician is not for me and is nothing I would ever have aspired to. Much as I enjoy playing bass and being in a band it is purely as a hobby and on my terms. Being a bassist is a part of my life but it doesn't define me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 11 hours ago, chris_b said: You'd get on stage and play your socks off. That would still be my job and thus a source of annoyance / stress / pain / disappointment/ etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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