wateroftyne Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, Burns-bass said: I must admit I have no idea who Matt Garrison is. Matt Garrison: Gloss Garrison: 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwilym Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, oldslapper said: Well that was underwhelming. Thought he set it up for some juicy goss… Basically he wants crowd funding for a Wal. In what way is it crowd funding? He wasn't asking anyone for any money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwilym Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 2 hours ago, oldslapper said: Well that was underwhelming. Thought he set it up for some juicy goss… Basically he wants crowd funding for a Wal. In what way is it crowd funding? He wasn't asking anyone for any money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 7 hours ago, fretmeister said: Depends entirely on the individual deal. Like with Marshall amps, even those with signature models (Slash / Kerry King / Joe Satriani etc) had to buy them. Marshall don't do free stuff. But for their artists they have a worldwide support structure, local loan amps so the artist doesn't have to air freight a load of heavy amps and cabs, local tech access etc etc. All probably worth a lot more than a free £1500 amp head. And with dealers in every city on earth likely to host a good sized gig that's a monster network. In the 90s all the metal bands were swapping to Mesa Dual Recs and Mesa was supplying them for big discounts and some free items. It was a good strategy for them as until the Dual Rec they were not a metal brand at all. It made a massive difference to their customer base. Marshall didn't have to do that, but for Mesa it worked so well that the Dual Rec became the must have metal amp for a good 10 years * So it's all a mix of the needs of the company and the artist. * even though it is actually a really flubby sounding thing without a TS type pedal boosting the mids and cutting the lows. Or you run the treble at literally zero to get some mids into the signal and then turn up the mids and presence to add treble. A thoroughly strange tone stack on the Rectifier line, especially on the higher gain settings. I still kinda love mine though it is only the Single Rectifier. Would still prefer my brother’s JCM 800 though… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, thodrik said: Or you run the treble at literally zero to get some mids into the signal and then turn up the mids and presence to add treble. A thoroughly strange tone stack on the Rectifier line, especially on the higher gain settings. I still kinda love mine though it is only the Single Rectifier. Would still prefer my brother’s JCM 800 though… I’ve had 3 Dual Recs. In the end I decided that although a TS pedal was best, a Les Paul with a Pearly Gates was the best non pedal option. The PG has a bit of a mid hump that works great with that amp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 23 hours ago, visog said: Rare to hear an artist talk with such candour about the tribulations of having a bass associated with you... TDLR Can someone give me a precis? Ta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2elliot Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Well that's several minutes I'll never get back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Maybe he should get a Squier classic vibe. They're pretty good these days. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwilym Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, MacDaddy said: TDLR Can someone give me a precis? Ta! He bought an Fbass. And might buy a Wal if he earns enough money from his channel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 53 minutes ago, fretmeister said: I’ve had 3 Dual Recs. In the end I decided that although a TS pedal was best, a Les Paul with a Pearly Gates was the best non pedal option. The PG has a bit of a mid hump that works great with that amp. Thanks! I’m also a Les Paul player as well, so will put that on the list! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 40 minutes ago, MacDaddy said: TDLR Can someone give me a precis? Ta! Don't bother with posh basses. Save yourself some cash and just get a Wal instead. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslapper Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Gwilym said: In what way is it crowd funding? He wasn't asking anyone for any money. “Like, subscribe, comment” the 3 most popular words on YT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf1e Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 19/01/2023 at 21:06, Jean-Luc Pickguard said: Maybe he should get a Squier classic vibe. They're pretty good these days. I got one a Jazz sounds and plays really nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Pickguard Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Ralf1e said: I got one a Jazz sounds and plays really nice I'm knocked out by just how good my Classic Vibe bass VI is. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 19/01/2023 at 12:20, Beedster said: When I was in sport it wasn't unusual for a very famous athlete to appear to be using a big brand (for example Nike and Trek, and these are specific examples of very well known athletes) while the shoes/bikes themselves were made by smaller, niche, manufacturers, the branding of the apparent manufacturer - usually also a corporate sponsor - being applied at a later stage with I assume either the permission or at least the knowledge of the actual manufacturer. While I tend to find it amusing when I see an artist who has a signature instrument routinely photographed playing one or more completely different instruments, it's probably better than, for example, Fender branding on an instrument made by a niche luthier (or perhaps that does also happen)? Ghost building is a real thing, I would be surprised if the signature production guitars (Fender etc, not posh brands) used by artists aren't outsourced or masterbuilt by an entirely different (and more costly) set of hands than the ones we scrubs can buy. If the late Ed Roman was telling even 5% of the truth (big stretch but bear with me!) then it's always been smoke and mirrors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf1e Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, lemmywinks said: Ghost building is a real thing, I would be surprised if the signature production guitars (Fender etc, not posh brands) used by artists aren't outsourced or masterbuilt by an entirely different (and more costly) set of hands than the ones we scrubs can buy. If the late Ed Roman was telling even 5% of the truth (big stretch but bear with me!) then it's always been smoke and mirrors. Thank you for that great insight Personally I don't care how good someone is and how much better than me he is. I don't want his name on my ******** guitar. If I could outplay the bar steward it might be different but then I would cross out his name and write mine on. he he he Not gonna happen is it he he he 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ralf1e said: Thank you for that great insight Personally I don't care how good someone is and how much better than me he is. I don't want his name on my ******** guitar. If I could outplay the bar steward it might be different but then I would cross out his name and write mine on. he he he Not gonna happen is it he he he I quite like the Marcus Miller ethos where he has some input into the design of the Sire basses and Markbass amps, ok it's basically selecting eq points but in both cases they've resulted in a better product I think. The basses were designed as a solid, low cost platform for students, not as his own personal signature model which is something I can get onboard with. Although somewhere I do have a signature Jimi Hendrix strap I bought for next to nothing in a rush as I needed a cheap strap, still look at it and think "why?" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi 2 kenobi Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 19/01/2023 at 14:42, Chris2112 said: Disappointing to hear of Matt Garrison going on like that. It is unusual that round about the time he was being critical of Janek was around the same sort of time as he pretty much disappeared from the bass scene. Before that he had seemed pretty busy and got some decent parts, and everyone was talking about the 'Matt Garrison' right hand technique. Perhaps he had some sort of an episode then, he's only 52 now so it effectively seems like he jacked in aged 40. True enough...saw Matt with John McL and others years ago. He was amazing tbf. But he did create a number of copycats, with 5 string single cut Foderas, tuned E-C, 33" scale plus ramp. Ok, Janek may have moved the instrument jack or whatever, but the core template came from Matt so maybe that's why he's whizzed at Janek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 Finally watched the OP video and I’m left wondering why someone as relatively little known as JG would even warrant a signature bass. I can only imagine that Fodera bigged him up because of the differences he had installed in his personal instrument. The same goes for Matt Garrison, hardly a household name, even amongst the bass community, and not particularly high profile IMO, but suddenly there’s a signature instrument. If Janek is to be believed, Garrison is a bit of a diva (I wonder if Anthony Jackson threw a hissy when either of these 2 ‘signature’ basses were produced? I’m guessing no, as AJ is high profile in our world and too busy working), but given that Fodera lavished both protagonists with ‘signature’ basses, I guess it’s easy to start having an over inflated opinion of oneself. I have 2 custom built Maruszczyks made to my specs, they must be my ‘signature’ models and perhaps I should approach Adrian about making them available at a cheaper price point for my acolytes? Oh yeah, I’m a nobody, as you were. As to the, “I wish I could pick up the phone and apologise,” comment, man alive! Come on, you’ve sat there, recorded, edited and generated a long video, you could’ve picked up the phone during the upload. Passive/aggressive perhaps? Finally, with regard to @ped’s editing comment, it irritates me too and seems all the rage in an effort, I guess, to be edgy. Other folk I follow occasionally have these jumps, but it’s plainly where they’ve ‘dropped in’ due to an error/retake, either that or they’re not very good at the edgy style. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, ezbass said: given that Fodera lavished both protagonists with ‘signature’ basses, I guess it’s easy to start having an over inflated opinion of oneself. It's a fair comment and it didn't start with Janek and Matt either. There is a trend in the bass world which has grown over the last few years with some builders where any Tom, Richard or Harry ordering a custom bass seems able to put their name on it and call it their signature bass. It's a little bit cringe to me, like they're buying the dream of being a big name without actually being so. I feel like there must be a distinction somewhere between genuine signature models and some guy just getting his name on it because he paid big bucks for it. Fodera were ahead of the game on this. They gave signature models to friends and local players. Remember the Lincoln Goines signature? He is a good player but I would never have heard of him were it not for his name being on the Fodera website. Again, I'm not saying that you have to be Geddy Lee before you get a signature bass but it has to have some authenticity, as in an actual demand for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 19/01/2023 at 21:58, Gwilym said: In what way is it crowd funding? He wasn't asking anyone for any money. Everybody asks for money, don't denie it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, nilorius said: Everybody asks for money, don't denie it. Define 'everybody'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 36 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: Define 'everybody'. Hey Dad, want £100? Drop me your paypal address. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Valdemar Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 19/01/2023 at 21:06, Jean-Luc Pickguard said: Maybe he should get a Squier classic vibe. They're pretty good these days. I was really hoping he was going to end up on something like that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 56 minutes ago, EBS_freak said: Hey Dad, want £100? Drop me your paypal address. Thanks for the offer, old chum, but 'I'm good', as they say on t'telly these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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