Grimalkin Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, chris_b said: Hey. That's my new aftershave! Old Spice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steantval Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) Have you listened to recent live performances by David Coverdale or Jon Bon Jovi, that should answer the thread title. Edited September 21, 2022 by steantval 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimalkin Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Trickle-down economics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 18/09/2022 at 07:46, mikel said: For me, when they get fat. The Stones can, or could, rip Charlie, pull it off cos they still look like rock stars. A big fat legend just doesn't work for me. It worked for BB King. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 When fans stop paying to hear them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Count Bassy said: It worked for BB King. He lost a lot of weight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 My formative music years were the mid 80s -mid 90s so groups from this period still resonate more strongly with me than any others. However, whenever I see ads for legacy tours, often featuring just the singer from the original line-up, I wince a tad. I don't want my memory of these tarnished by the images of these people now in their early 60s. I did make the exception of seeing Heaven 17 doing the Penthouse & Pavement tour a decade + ago - they would've been in their 50s then - because they never gigged back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorks5stringer Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Count Bassy said: It worked for BB King. He just sat down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, tegs07 said: When fans stop paying to hear them? Do they want to let go any more than the musicians do? Sounds like a symbiotic relationship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Geek99 said: Do they want to let go any more than the musicians do? Sounds like a symbiotic relationship If they are both happy fine. I think some bands become like a corporation though with a lot of jobs and people reliant on their existence. I know this weighed heavily on Jerry Garcia. Retirement affects an awful lot of people. Edited September 22, 2022 by tegs07 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimalkin Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 People will pay for any old bunk. Elton John has been barking like a walrus for years. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Count Bassy said: It worked for BB King. BB was Blues, and beyond rock star. And that shape for most of his life. So he doesn't count. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikel Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Ian Anderson, one of my all time greats from the late 60s to the 80s, should have given up quite a few years ago. He can't sing any more, his voice is shot, and it pains me to see the Tull legacy tarnished. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, mikel said: BB was Blues, and beyond rock star. And that shape for most of his life. So he doesn't count. Robert Smith is still managing to headline festivals and play incredibly good (and lengthy) live shows even whilst looking like an overweight dinner lady after a drug fuelled weekend. I don’t think appearance matters if they can still cut it live. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimalkin Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 It ain't over until the fat lady sings, really badly. And then it's the retirement tours... "I'm going now." "I'm really going this time." "Am I still here? I should have been gone ages ago..." "Alright, one for the road, and then I'm really going..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I am hoping to see Roger Chapman in the spring, by which time he'll be approaching 81. Last saw him just before lockdown. Yes the voice has changed, and the songs (new and old) adapted to suit, what a voice still. Still producing new and strong material. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misdee Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 45 minutes ago, tegs07 said: Robert Smith is still managing to headline festivals and play incredibly good (and lengthy) live shows even whilst looking like an overweight dinner lady after a drug fuelled weekend. I don’t think appearance matters if they can still cut it live. Very good shout. Some people should never grow old and fat. Robert Smith is one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misdee Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) A lot of punters just want to say that they have seen The Legend and been in their presence. The standard of the music and overall of performance is not even a secondary consideration. I find it hard to think of any current Legendary Acts of stadium-filling stature that are still worth watching. The Rolling Stones, The Who, AC/DC, all acts that are trading on past glories that I wouldn't pay £5 to watch in my local park. And as for poor old Phil Collins, when I see the pitiful state he is in nowadays I feel quite upset. He looks like he needs to be in a nursing home more than he needs to be on stage. That said,I saw BB King in concert at a fairly small venue in 1986 and he was amazing, still the best live act I have ever seen. The whole performance was a masterclass in musicianship and showmanship. You got the feeling he had done a million professional gigs, and this was one of them. He wasn't trading on his reputation, he was showing everyone how he got that reputation. So I suppose that shows we shouldn't pre-judge. Edited September 22, 2022 by Misdee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tegs07 Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) Old guys I have seen that were still good live: The Cure Jimmy Cliff Buddy Guy JJ Cale Ry Cooder Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Would love to see/have seen Tom Waits Leonard Cohen If you can still play live with conviction why stop, particularly if you need the cash? Edited September 22, 2022 by tegs07 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 I take no pleasure in including Rod Stewart in this thread. Been a fan of his since the early 70's, especially his stuff with The Faces. Saw him live then and he was truly remarkable - one of those singers who occasionally didn't hit the notes bang on but everything else he brought to the table far eclipsed this. The quality of his voice has been (IMO) slowly going downhill since the 80's, and was especially grim on his American Songbook stuff. These days it's almost shot, with seemingly no upper or lower range, just a weird middley warble. Combine that with a rather embarassing 'still got it' stage persona, and it's just a massive cringe fest. Sorry mate, but you've had a good run. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boodang Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 It seems genre has a bearing on this. Rock, pop etc there's an a certain energy level expectation and in the case of vocals, the inevitable change in range that comes with getting older, whereas most of the jazz legends just seem to get better with age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeyboro Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 7 hours ago, casapete said: I take no pleasure in including Rod Stewart in this thread. Been a fan of his since the early 70's, especially his stuff with The Faces. Saw him live then and he was truly remarkable - one of those singers who occasionally didn't hit the notes bang on but everything else he brought to the table far eclipsed this. The quality of his voice has been (IMO) slowly going downhill since the 80's, and was especially grim on his American Songbook stuff. These days it's almost shot, with seemingly no upper or lower range, just a weird middley warble. Combine that with a rather embarassing 'still got it' stage persona, and it's just a massive cringe fest. Sorry mate, but you've had a good run. Like you, Pete, Rod was my entry point to rock. And many of the points you make are valid. American Songbook was thrown out of my house! I have to say, though, that seeing him in Vegas in 2016 I was, despite myself, impressed. He did 90 minutes, the length of a football match, waved the solos round when he could, let his backing singers do a number and avoided songs like Sailing which would have shown him up. By the time we were out of the door he was at the airport preparing for the short hop home. Game management in football-speak. A month later we saw Macca in Portland. Three-hour shows, a different city every night, lead vocals on every song… Different strokes for different folks. At least the likes of Dylan and Ian Hunter don’t have that problem - they never had a voice to lose! 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nail Soup Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Stranglers are still sounding great despite JJ getting on, and having the new guys in. See the recent TV gig on the second page of this current thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stub Mandrel Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 On 17/09/2022 at 13:16, Mickeyboro said: When should legends hang it up, and who will be the person to tell them? Opinions, please… If someone has inspired and excited people with their music in their heyday and still live and breathes music, who has the right to say "you've lost your edge mate, time to pack it in"? Why should only us average musicians have the right to carry on as long as we enjoy it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Carry on while the phone keeps ringing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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