Kev Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Wow. 45 minutes in and this unit is blowing me away. Neighbours are out as well so a bit of volume was possible through the Berg too. Funny that the initial thing that impressed me out of the box for me was the foot switch! I was expecting quite a light metal box due to the size, but its got a good bit of weight to it! Very solid indeed. The amp looks stunning, and again has a bit more weight than I expected. It oozes quality in a way I haven't really experienced in a bass head before. An Apple computer perhaps, but not bass gear It sounds so MASSIVE (I will not use that H word), its really difficult to explain why. The EQ is superb, this will be the first amp I won't run flat in quite a while. The flat sound of this head couldn't be further from the stereotypical Darkglass sound, very clean and surprisingly warm. However, with a bit of mids manipulation it sounds absolutely killer, punchier than anything but still crystal clear. The gain knob has fantastic range to it, none of this horrible overdriven preamp sound you get with a lot of solid state units, it just seems to break up nicely..up to a point . The Microtubes engine is as I expected, fan-bloody-tastic, but the Tone knob is a very cool addition. The circuits differ from the pedals in that they lack the Attack and Grunt switches, the tone knob mainly deals with the Attack, purely off my interpretation of it I would guess the Grunt is hardwired to the Fat setting on the pedals, but it could be Raw. The head that has made way for this, Tecamp Puma, was superb but this has something else going on that I cannot wait to explore at proper volume. And I have to wait until Monday before I can rehearse with the band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Oh, and no issues with mine out the box at all. Knobs all good e.t.c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBerriff Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 We were unlucky. During transit, the gain knob ended up compressed against the footswitch button. Packing the amp the other way around will stop this happening in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 It sounds immense. I might want bigger cabs. I don't need them, but you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markorbit Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Can you get these things smooth, velvety and furry like a B15 at optimum volume or are they always 'metalised' when you engage the microtubes? Darkglass seem to attract aggressive players who want a sound with attitude on most videos I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 [quote name='markorbit' timestamp='1476393280' post='3153999'] Can you get these things smooth, velvety and furry like a B15 at optimum volume or are they always 'metalised' when you engage the microtubes? Darkglass seem to attract aggressive players who want a sound with attitude on most videos I see. [/quote] Thats the problem, Microtubes circuits have a reputation of just being for aggressive sounds and styles. Reality is, even the B*K circuit can sound warm and gritty if you use it right. The Vintage circuit though, it was primarily designed to get tones like you describe, but again people tend to demo its more aggressive nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markorbit Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 [quote name='Kev' timestamp='1476394462' post='3154023'] Thats the problem, Microtubes circuits have a reputation of just being for aggressive sounds and styles. Reality is, even the B*K circuit can sound warm and gritty if you use it right. The Vintage circuit though, it was primarily designed to get tones like you describe, but again people tend to demo its more aggressive nature. [/quote] That's what I was thinking/hoping! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 The VMT with the gain low is lovely. It has a warmth to it while staying clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBerriff Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1476426158' post='3154112'] The VMT with the gain low is lovely. It has a warmth to it while staying clean. [/quote] I must try that. Warmth suits this old man. Regarding the discussion on power handling, for my needs I would rather think of it as good thermal management. At the power levels where I will use this amp, it is going to stay cool and should have a long and reliable gig life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Yup - I think that wins the award for the best looking small format amp. That milled aluminium looks gorgeous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Here's mine sitting on top of my Vanderkley MNT210. It all sounds glorious with my Wal. Note how low the master volume is and that's with the amp set at 2ohms. [url="https://flic.kr/p/N8RoqQ"][/url][url="https://flic.kr/p/N8RoqQ"]IMG_1499[/url] by [url="https://www.flickr.com/photos/133023872@N03/"]John Robertson[/url], on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Hefty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisK1975 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I'm glad I'm not using backline at the moment (using in-ears), otherwise my credit card would have been out of my wallet like a bat out of hell. Really, I don't need this amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted October 14, 2016 Author Share Posted October 14, 2016 I know what you mean. I only play at home and got rid of my TE 250 watt amp. I really don't need this. *sits on twitchy hands* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I'm currently only playing with myself (oo-er), and I'm not a fan of the baked-in darkglass sound, and even I'm interested in this amp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) I've just watched a demo online - a guy called Patrick Hunter: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6M26dHCn5E[/media] - it certainly ticks my boxes tonally and from the strength of this video, it reminds me of the Tech 21 Dug Pinnick head. The only thing that worries me now are that for some time (years!) I've had my ideal tone in my head and after a lot of trial and error, I'm finally happy. I can replicate my sound with any of my basses, but now this drops, I'm looking at my rack and floorboard and I'm thinking, 'Hmmm. I can get rid of that. And that. Maybe that too.' Edited October 14, 2016 by NancyJohnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dood Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 [quote name='Darkglass' timestamp='1474395574' post='3137703'] Hey guys! Thanks for all the interest and questions. It's been a hectic year to say the least, with the last 8 weeks being borderline insane, I love it, but am also constantly running around helping out the different teams regarding the amplifier, from manufacturing, to logistics, marketing and strategy. Keep posting your questions, I'm super grateful for all the interest and curiosity, I'll make sure to pop by as soon as my schedule allows and answer some of them! Now time for some dinner, hit the sack, tomorrow will be a big day! Doug. [/quote] Great to see you hear Doug! Looking forward to trying out this one. The Vintage Ultra is a superb pedal so the amp head is on the 'to do' list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Right chaps.... Anyone know of a good bag that will fit it properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1476454830' post='3154496'] Right chaps.... Anyone know of a good bag that will fit it properly? [/quote] I'm interested in this too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimefred Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 cant wait to read a review from gigging conditions and also i'd love a comparison against some of the big old boy SS / Valve amps. Darkglass say this amp is a no compromise amplifier so my fingers are crossed it stacks u well. Not used a class d that even compares to my SVT as of yet so lets see if this comes close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbowskill Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) [quote name='longtimefred' timestamp='1476458765' post='3154547'] cant wait to read a review from gigging conditions and also i'd love a comparison against some of the big old boy SS / Valve amps. Darkglass say this amp is a no compromise amplifier so my fingers are crossed it stacks u well. Not used a class d that even compares to my SVT as of yet so lets see if this comes close. [/quote] Dito, i am getting some major gas for this ......but boy do i love my svt. Edited October 14, 2016 by danbowskill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBerriff Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1476454830' post='3154496'] Right chaps.... Anyone know of a good bag that will fit it properly? [/quote] I have a Gator G-MIX-B 1212 and it fits in that with a bit of space to spare. 1212 means the bag is 12" x 12". The depth is about right at just under 3". This might not be what you mean by "fit properly", though. The only problem I have with the Gator bags is that the cable pocket is a bit small. It will take one or two short Speakon cables but that is about it. Edited October 14, 2016 by DBerriff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Rehearsal starts in an hour! Could be fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I know a lot of the sound from that clip is due to strings/pickups but man, this amp sounds nice. The start of the clip is pretty much the tone I use with my Tonehammer & Sansamp. If I were in the market for a new amp I`d be GASSING severely for one of these, but as all I`d do is get the sound I currently use there`s little point. Additionally, what strings were they, I`ve never seen an E string flap so much, it was flappier than a flappy thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenra Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 [quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1476526317' post='3154957'] I know a lot of the sound from that clip is due to strings/pickups but man, this amp sounds nice. The start of the clip is pretty much the tone I use with my Tonehammer & Sansamp. If I were in the market for a new amp I`d be GASSING severely for one of these, but as all I`d do is get the sound I currently use there`s little point. Additionally, what strings were they, I`ve never seen an E string flap so much, it was flappier than a flappy thing. [/quote] Talking about that Patrick video? I've wondered too why it's so flappy! Lovely colour jazz too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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