fretmeister Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 When will they be on sale in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/MICROTUBES-700/bass-amp-heads/darkglass-microtubes-900-bass-head-amp Interesting...cheaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 That is interesting - especially as they are more expensive on the pedals than Bass Direct are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1474469898' post='3138246'] That is interesting - especially as they are more expensive on the pedals than Bass Direct are. [/quote] Unless Andertons' pedal stock was post-Brexit price rise? Hmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Could be. Bass Direct's facebook page claimed they were getting the amps in next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 [url="https://blog.andertons.co.uk/guitars/darkglass-microtubes-900-andertons"]https://blog.andertons.co.uk/guitars/darkglass-microtubes-900-andertons[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Dim question - 900w @4ohm, but only one speaker output - so you couldn't get 2 8 ohm cabs into it? It would need to be one decent rated cab to make use of that power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanovw Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 You would have to daisy chain the two cabs. Link one to the other then out of the second into the speaker in socket. Assuming the cabs have the correct connections Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanAxe Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 [quote name='Daz39' timestamp='1474632722' post='3139425'] Dim question - 900w @4ohm, but only one speaker output - so you couldn't get 2 8 ohm cabs into it? It would need to be one decent rated cab to make use of that power? [/quote] There are (and have been) quite a few heads rated roughly 400-500W into 8ohm, 800-900W into 4ohm. As long as one cab has two sockets connected in parallel, then as deanovw says, you can daisy-chain two 8ohm cabs to give a 4ohm load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Even if the cabs only have one speakon each you can also make a "Y" cable to connect everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkglass Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Most cabs I have seen and owned have a parallel output jack. Also, using the 2 Ohm mode will put out 500W at 4 Ohms (350W at 8) so there is a lot of flexibility on the power amp section as well (all this is in the [url="http://darkglass.com/app/uploads/2016/09/Manual-M900.pdf"]manual[/url] by the way). Nice weekend everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) I still can't believe how cheap Darkglass have released this head at, that Andertons price is stonking. Bear in mind this practically has a Vintage Ultra and B7K Ultra built in, and they are pedals costing £325 a piece alone. Then add the power module, the fact they are handbuilt in Finland and the engineering that has gone intro producing this unit. Bravo Doug and the team! The english price is fair compared to the US price I imagine primarily because, unlike a lot of the competition, this unit of course is not built in the US. For fans of the Darkglass drive pedals, utter bargain. For non-Darkglass fans, I imagine this will just be fair competition against Eich/Tecamp/Mesa and the other higher end Class D heads. It does have that power amp flexibility a lot of others don't. Cheaper than the Mesa, a tiny bit more than the Eich, and love it or hate it the Mircrotubes engine makes for a very flexible preamp in comparison. Owning both the Ultra pedals and a Tecamp head I'm very happy with, I can't see how I can justify this without selling basically everything I use at the moment, bar basses and cabs. I admit to being disappointed with the addition of a fan (love that the Puma only has very silent ones that are hardly ever on, and it never feels close to overheating), but that foot switch has to make up for it, surely? Edited September 23, 2016 by Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2elliot Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I've just watched the pro mo vid. It looks very well built and sounds great. I'm very interested in this head but need to see/hear more samples of the various sounds it can put out. Hard attacking finger style please with crunch, please. If it needs a fan then so be it. I won't hear it when playing live, it's a 900w head rammed full of distortion for stage use... it's not a bedroom toy. I think I want one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 [quote name='2elliot' timestamp='1474713974' post='3140005'] I've just watched the pro mo vid. It looks very well built and sounds great. I'm very interested in this head but need to see/hear more samples of the various sounds it can put out. Hard attacking finger style please with crunch, please. If it needs a fan then so be it. I won't hear it when playing live, it's a 900w head rammed full of distortion for stage use...[b] it's not a bedroom toy.[/b] I think I want one. [/quote] I would imagine the concern about the fan is more about mic'd recording or perhaps reliability. Well, thats mine anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 [quote name='2elliot' timestamp='1474713974' post='3140005']If it needs a fan then so be it. I won't hear it when playing live, it's a 900w head rammed full of distortion for stage use... it's not a bedroom toy. [/quote] There's no reason why a well designed amp cannot be both. If at bedroom practice levels the fan doesn't kick in, or just kicks in very quietly, no problem. But if an amp uses a cheap noisy fan that has no intelligent speed control, then it hasn't been engineered very well, and I don't see why I should splash out on one amp for stage and a separate one for home/studio. I'd expect the cooling system to be well designed in this one though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz39 Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 Thanks for the info - my question was genuine (for a change) rather than a complaint. I am very taken with the idea of the amp, and was just considering cab options. As it happens I would probably only ever get one cab: but this way I could get two 8 or 4 Ohm cabs, and the DG amp would still cope. *goes to check Maths on 1x 8 & 1x 4 Ohm cab... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franzbassist Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 It's one of the best looking amps I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkglass Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 [quote name='Daz39' timestamp='1474891566' post='3141246'] Thanks for the info - my question was genuine (for a change) rather than a complaint. I am very taken with the idea of the amp, and was just considering cab options. As it happens I would probably only ever get one cab: but this way I could get two 8 or 4 Ohm cabs, and the DG amp would still cope. *goes to check Maths on 1x 8 & 1x 4 Ohm cab... [/quote] The formula is, in this case 8*4/(8+4)=32/12=2,67. Here's a free calculator http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-paralresist.htm. [quote name='walbassist' timestamp='1474892610' post='3141264'] It's one of the best looking amps I've seen. [/quote] Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 New demo up with 3 different players https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4V7IX3bzQ [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4V7IX3bzQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4V7IX3bzQ[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twincam Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 [quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1474966479' post='3141813'] New demo up with 3 different players https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4V7IX3bzQ [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4V7IX3bzQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr4V7IX3bzQ[/url] [/quote] Its a shame demo vids can't fully portray the amp in question. I'm sure the amp sounds better in life so to say. To me I find it hard to judge an amp on a YouTube vid even with decent headphones etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimefred Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 i simply cant entertain one, just because of Nolly's sh!t jumper haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I have just preordered mine through Andertons. Here's hoping their estimated shipping date of 14 October is realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2elliot Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Fingers crossed Andertons will do a comprehensive review of what this head is capable of. That one is just three blokes playing bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 GAS overhwhelmed me, that together with the fact that if I sold one of my Darkglass Ultra pedals and my current amp I would have more than enough to buy one of these, which effectively has [i]both [/i]of the Ultra pedals built in. I wouldn't have considered it had it been the price I expected it to be, however at £769 it is an absolute steal compared to its competitors in my opinion. The only disadvantage (compared to my current Class D amp) I can see it has is a lack of Aux in and headphone jacks. Outside the bedroom, not so much of an issue, but I do occasionally use my current amp for late night practice in this way. The microtubes engine makes up for it Hopefully in a week or so it will be in my hands, expect a full review! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterfire666 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 i cant wait for some reviews, im very very tempted...............hmmmmm........the wife wouldn't approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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