cloudburst Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Given the raging debate surrounding the suitability of John Hall to run the Rickenbacker (or any) company, I wondered if any of you had read this. It's a real eye-opener if you read the chain of correspondence all the way through. Not to mention some of the subsequently posted personal experiences of a couple of folk who happen to know John Hall and his wife. http://www.thezookeepers.com/ricklet.htm CB NOTE to John Hall: The above is not the opinion of cloudburst or of Basschat. It is merely a reference to a customer service incident which has previously been published elsewhere on the Internet. This post is free of Rickenbacker porn and Rickenbacker copy porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bassman Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Very interesting, thanks. There is much intercourse of a similar nature, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Not sure if posting that at the moment is particularly constructive, but it is indeed a fascinating read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) Don't think I will ever buy a Ric I think they are to expensive and I don't like them personally. But back on topic, that letter if it is real is totally disgusting and Rickenbacker should be ashamed of themselves. Edited June 4, 2013 by Thunderbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Well if it is all true, I think it`s rather shoddy customer service. But given the way I`ve heard that the company do their internet-policing, I can`t say I`m surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacker Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I remember this one! There's also a spat about a Laredo complaint out on the web. Will c if I can find it later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 He has lost the plot hasn't he. It's not like they're everyone's sup of tea in the first place, now he seems intent on making them an even more niche product by alienating current and potential customers. As one of the respondents said, customer service is everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm tempted to buy a Lollar pickup now. I've got nothing to put it in, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hopefully this gives a bit of insight into why BC should pull the shutters down on him and his company and walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geek99 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 That customer service really sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) I definitely wouldnt deal with them directly, and i actually like Rics! The only new Ric ive ever had from new had to go back to the shop and me getting my money back due to the paint shearing off the body near the bridge after a month's use. Certainly would thnk twice about ever buying a new one. And given Hall's recent shenanigans i would rather buy second hand. Interestingly one of the bridge pins fell out of that bass as well... QC at Ric appears to be poor which is a shame as the bass itself was an absolute delight to play (as Dood will testify to after giving it a workout when i bought it) Edited June 5, 2013 by Stag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRISDABASS Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 There is no excuse for poor customer service at any price point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Good read! It is worth noting that the date on the original complaint was 1997 though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1370433837' post='2100708'] Good read! It is worth noting that the date on the original complaint was 1997 though... [/quote] Just goes to show that the terrible attitude & contempt for their customers isn't a recent development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Ah, but [i]some [/i]might contend it only happens once every sixteen years. On a Tuesday. Rest of the time, he's a total lambkin, sunny smiles aplenty and a puppy for the orphans at Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Is this where the expression "getting screwed " comes from ? Absolutely disasterous public relations from Rickenbacker . If just one person has decided not to buy a new Rick because of this thread , then they will need to sell a lot of screws to make up for that . You have to admire the sheer bloody - mindedness of this mob . They seem downright mental , and they don't seem to care a jot what anybody thinks about it . The more I hear about this man and his company , the more I like him . I'm getting interested in buying a Rickenbacker ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I still want an all black 4001. I'll just buy second-hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBassBob Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 John Hall is a pig. I prefer to think of the factory workers and CNC machines when I enjoy my 4003 and keep that arrogant asshat from my thoughts as much as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1370446147' post='2101016'] You have to admire the sheer bloody - mindedness of this mob . They seem downright mental , and they don't seem to care a jot what anybody thinks about it . The more I hear about this man and his company , the more I like him . I'm getting interested in buying a Rickenbacker ! [/quote] That's his fiendishly cunning plan - by the end of the month the forum will be called "Rickchat", every other make will have been ousted from discussion & we will all have sleepwalked right into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 [quote name='BigBassBob' timestamp='1370450727' post='2101119'] John Hall is a pig. I prefer to think of the factory workers and CNC machines when I enjoy my 4003 and keep that arrogant asshat from my thoughts as much as possible. [/quote] Careful man, you may get accused of a personal attack on JH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBassBob Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Not intended as an attack, more like an opinion that I typed out before thinking it through. For the sake of BC I'll shut my mouth on the topic but a part of me would love for him to chase me up on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1370446147' post='2101016'] You have to admire the sheer bloody - mindedness of this mob. They seem downright mental, and they don't seem to care a jot what anybody thinks about it. The more I hear about this man and his company, the more I like him. I'm getting interested in buying a Rickenbacker![/quote] Thank God it's not just me, then. I've got quite serious GAS for a Ric as a result of all these shenanigans. It has to be a real one, mind - and I don't care if the copies [i]are [/i]superior - IT HAS TO BE A REAL ONE!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1370454874' post='2101251'] Thank God it's not just me, then. I've got quite serious GAS for a Ric as a result of all these shenanigans. It has to be a real one, mind - and I don't care if the copies [i]are [/i]superior - IT HAS TO BE A REAL ONE!! [/quote] Perverse , but true . I want one of these : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5MLmb0QIxg Or even one of these : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hShSs5IlIH0 Edited March 24, 2014 by icastle Link fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) [quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1370455344' post='2101265'] Perverse, but true. I want one of these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5MLmb0QIxg [/quote] Sweet! And you're not making this any easier, by the way. Edited March 24, 2014 by icastle Link fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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