stoatsbrother Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 ... or thats about how much I want to spend on buying a pedal for my son for his 16th birthday... He plays a Peavey Cirrus 4 string (not the US version) or my Ibanez BTB 5 string through a Basscube 30 or an Ashdown combo. Indie rock sometimes in two bands, jazz/funk in another band, and sometimes other stuff... For his 6 string he uses a Boss ME-50, and he has a loop station RC3 What dedicated bass pedals would you recommend as a start down the road of excessive on stage wiring? Or should bass players stand at the back, not move, and play cleanly and discretely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 A Behringer BDI21 - that then leaves you £70 odd to buy something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 This [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/170617-3-leaf-groove-regulator-mk1-further-price-drop-l85-posted/"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/170617-3-leaf-groove-regulator-mk1-further-price-drop-l85-posted/[/url] . The GR is an awesome envelope filter. IME it's one of the things that digital units aren't too good at. Distortion/overdrive always sounds better when coming from a dedicated outboard pedal too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 For Jazz/Funk, I'd look at either an envelope pedal, chorus, octave or maybe even some dirt. I always say "if you're not sure, get a multi fx unit", but it's not for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I'd say a good overdrive/distortion/fuzz, as that's the effect that multis are usually worst at. Should get some good usage in the indie/rock band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If he`s in gigging bands, I`ll echo Muskys recommendation of the BDI21. Great pedal, ideal as a DI in case of amp failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Without doubt I'd go for a good envelope filter. I've been buying lots of effects lately and the envelope filter is the one I'm having the most fun with (I ended up with an EHX Qtron, the big one - £50 off ebay). Octave pedals are good, but I know at 16 I wouldn't have enjoyed one as it involves too much modification of my technique - have to play cleaner and not use chords. Another option would be something like the soundblox multiwave bass distortion. Distortion and fuzz galore and some of the more wacky settings sound very synthy which could be useful for his funk band. Good luck and let us know how you get on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='Bigwan' timestamp='1332492816' post='1588959'] (I ended up with an EHX Qtron, the big one - £50 off ebay). [/quote] Score! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clauster Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 One sound shaping tool that's useful in any genre is a good compressor. The ME 50 has one built in but IMO isn't great. £100 should easily get you a used EBS Multicomp around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigwan Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1332492978' post='1588964'] Score! [/quote] Yeah but it's [size=5]HUGE!!![/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 get a blender loop for the ME-50 so he can use it with his bass. If you can get one with a feedback control on it too that would create hours of fun from his existing kit. Barge Concepts do them but last time I looked it seemed they'd closed?! I do have a spare one if you're interested. £50 for a blend/feedback loop, then £50 on a nice dirt pedal - sweet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremen Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Tuner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamfist Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 A used EBS Multidrive for outstanding OD and dirt noises. Or save up aother £30 and spring for a Rothwell Love Squeeze (prob need to buy new as people who buy these don't sell them). I guarantee he will never need another compressor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxxwj Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Wren and Cuff Phat Phuk B, EBS Multidrive, maybe something EHX would be nice.. as well as Boss. The Boss BF-2 flanger is an awesome sounding effect without being too expensive, as well as the Boss CE-5 chorus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Big muff / variant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dave Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='stoatsbrother' timestamp='1332488530' post='1588926'] What dedicated bass pedals would you recommend as a start down the road of excessive on stage wiring? Or should bass players stand at the back, not move, and play cleanly and discretely.... [/quote] Not sure about your 'either/or'. I've never stood at the back and I never will - Nobody ever forgets seeing me - BUT ...never used a pedal in my life. One more thing to trip over , one more thing to go wrong , one more thing to blame when you don't play well. I expect your son already has a tuner of some kind. He may well have compression or overdrive facilities on his amp already. Compression can be a useful thing , especially with playing styles like slap , so a good gift choice would be compression. 2nd choice is.......... give him the hundred quid to go see loads of gigging players in action. He'll learn a lot more than he will from a silly pedal. Further down the list of things to do/have to be a better player - maybe about 200th - would be a decent chorus pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Second hand Roland GP-8. Eight of your favourite Boss pedals (Dynamic Filter, Compressor, Overdrive, Distortion, Phaser, EQ, Delay and Chorus/Flanger) in a programmable 1U rack. All digitally controlled analogue except the delay and chorus/flanger which are all digital so you get the best of both worlds. If you shop around you might even be able to get either a MIDI pedal board or the dedicated Roland FC100 Mk2 foot controller as well and still not go over £100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimefred Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I wouldnt buy any effects or pedals until he/you know that one is needed. Anything other is just spunking money for the sake of it. Sorry for being a spoil sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='longtimefred' timestamp='1332523759' post='1589646'] ...just spunking money for the sake of it... [/quote] That's half the fun. Pedal-scrooge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimefred Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1332523872' post='1589647'] That's half the fun. Pedal-scrooge! [/quote] haha got me there! I would love an armoury of pedals but i just know they would never get used. Most of the time it wouldnt make a difference to what im playing anyway. But if i did have the money to burn on a pedal, i would choose an Oxide Iron Ether fuzz pedal as you can never have enough filth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxxwj Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 [quote name='longtimefred' timestamp='1332524166' post='1589656'] haha got me there! I would love an armoury of pedals but i just know they would never get used. Most of the time it wouldnt make a difference to what im playing anyway. But if i did have the money to burn on a pedal, i would choose an Oxide Iron Ether fuzz pedal as you can never have enough filth. [/quote] Iron Ether are boss. +1 Bit more than 100 squid, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topo morto Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 "Obvious but true" problem with dedicated effects is that by their nature each one covers only a narrow range so any given one is unlikely to hit the spot. Why not a multifex? Zoom B3 is about £100 (rounded to the nearest £100 ) a couple of fairly flexible general-purpose distortion pedals are the Hartke bass attack (not very cool though) and the Tech 21 VT bass (100 ish s/h) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiryll Konyaev Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 [quote name='topo morto' timestamp='1332608621' post='1590690'] Hartke bass attack (not very cool though) [/quote] [font=comic sans ms,cursive]Ive always noticed that Hartke is way too noisy when it is on for my liking but it can be a fun preamp pedal [/font] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 A 2nd hand EBS Multicomp - compression is a subtle 'effect' but it'll just make everything sound better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin8708 Posted April 8, 2012 Share Posted April 8, 2012 I would probably put the £100 towards a decent gigging amp or combo . I echo Dr Dave , pedals are just one more thing to go wrong and a source of constant on-stage fiddling by guitarists . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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