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[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1378315064' post='2198546'] Like the age-old Kylie/Danni Minogue thing. Danni every time, but I just can`t explain why. [/quote]

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1378308115' post='2198443'] What actually is a Jedi Grand Master? [/quote] nerd moment... Jedi train from learners (padawan) and upon completion of training become knights (I think) eventually becoming a jedi master and maybe gaining a seat on the jedi council, the chief of that council is the jedi grand master...I think that's how it goes...? so essentially, the op is looking for the chief among p-basses, accepting that all p-basses are jedi among mortal basses with some ranking as jedi master but only one/few ever achieving grand master status

[quote name='Legion' timestamp='1378302282' post='2198357'] Well, I can confirm that I never wanted a reliced bass, and certainly not one that was practically pink - but after a couple of notes unplugged I was sold. Maybe the factors that make a bass "special" vary for each person though, maybe my Pino wouldn't do it for you. I suppose experience can't be bought and the only way to know what you like is to try lots of things until something stands out above the rest. Thats where I consider myself to have been very lucky in that I had [i]that[/i] bass, stupidly sold it, and was actually able to get it back again. Maybe my Jedi bass is not the [s]droid[/s] bass you are looking for? [/quote] Absolutely matey and that's kind of the point of the op in that I was trying to put together a hit list of basses to try so I can find that soul connection with a p

[quote name='Legion' timestamp='1378301032' post='2198339'] To be honest once you've played the Lull and felt how light and perfectly balanced it is you will forget all about that headstock shape (I don't mind it myself). Basically you're correct, t[b]he lesser bass [/b]has sentimental value and [b]I have always been at my most inspired when playing it.[/b] I was SO close to selling the Fender in favour of the Lull though, which considering how highly rated the Fender is, should tell you a lot about how good that Lull is. [/quote] It's the 'most inspired when playing it part' that contains all the magic isn't it, that's the bit where you try everything in the shop and there's just one that stands out, even though it's not the most expensive and it might not even be a colour you'd gone looking for, it's just got that extra bit of something that you can't design into an instrument, if it has soul already you're more likely to play from yours?

[quote name='Legion' timestamp='1378300208' post='2198323'] Seeing as I'm no longer selling the Pino I would certainly recommend its better quality sibling: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/214732-mike-lull-p4-7lbs-5oz-of-p/page__fromsearch__1"]http://basschat.co.u...__fromsearch__1[/url] [/quote] I've looked at that and it's beautiful looking apart from I really don't like the headstock You're keeping the lesser quality bass that you much prefer to play as it has an undefinable quality to it yes?

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1378296114' post='2198225'] Bear in mind Dave uses thomasticks j144 strings flatwounds these are a very light gauge with the g string being 0.43 and the he uses a roundwound low b close to 130 gauge that makes the g string slippery like a eel and the low b slightly bigger . Each to his own I would have a set of .45 to 105 with a 125 low b. That could the reason why those strings feel like that but if u were to get a four strings one I'm sure there will be plenty of space for a decent strings spacing. Ps it sounded really nice and organic when in passive mode so I recommend you give one a go [/quote] Wierd string continuity from Dave there! I guess he gets continuity of sound rather than feel, odd compromise though 'sounding really organic when in passive' ticks a few more boxes for me! I'd definitely like to try one at some point!!

I have luminlay in my ACG custom and it's just the coolest thing!

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1378293563' post='2198163'] Andy, I've actually played Dave's one because I wanted to see what the fuss was all about. I can now see that the reason why it suits him so well is because of the very powerful onboard preamp capable of some serious lows, other than that the weight is perfectly balanced it has very nice thin and sleek neck for a fiver with the only problem perhaps being the outer strings too close to the edge for my liking. That was 3 weeks ago, then we met again last weekend and I asked him if the honeymoon was over with the Xotic and he said oh no it's perfect for this gig (the jools gig) except that he also mentioned something about the [b]e[/b] and [b]b[/b] strings being too close to the edge, but it's something he can live with it, and so it appears it might be a keeper for him, considering that he goes through a lot of 5 strings P basses in his search for the ultimate one. The Dingwall Super P its still one of his favourite but he is waiting for John East to send him a revised preamp to suits his needs, he explained to me in quick details but..... [i][b]wooooosh[/b][/i] it went all over my head, too complicated [/quote] I love it's looks (I'm a sucker for a nice burst) and all the modern hardware bits (bridge, tuners etc), not sure about having a pre at all I'd need to have a proper noodle as the passive p sound is what makes me want one, simplicity, 2 knobs, no fuss etc...if the xotic was as amazing when in 'passive mode' I'd be very tempted by it I think! I even like that the headstock isn't too far removed from fenderishness as it just looks right that way! I hadn't considered a 5 string p as it's not really wht I wanted a p for, I've got my ACG 5'ers for that sort of thing, a p would be for classy thick motown/bluesy/soul type stuff that only a p sounds right for... oo those strings do look very close to the edge don't they! That's sure to tidy up vibrato technique in a hurry!!

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1378286425' post='2198046'] A bloke by the name of Dave Swift for as long as I can remember has been on the search for the ultimate sounding P Bass and recently he stumbled upon one that he reckons is mustard. The bass in question is called Xotic and the model is this one: [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Xotic_XP5_3_tone_sunburst.html"]http://www.bassdirec...e_sunburst.html[/url] although Dave settled for a Shoreline Gold [/quote] That does look very p-bass while incorporating a lot of modern hardware appointments which will improve balance etc, the proof is obviously very much in the playing and Mr Swift is clearly happy with it! I may need a trip to Bass Direct to sit and noodle on many p-bass type things...(I'll start with the Manchester Bass Lounge stock though as am going there anyway next week)

[quote name='basshead56' timestamp='1378263906' post='2197866'] I tried an 83 62RI in Fiesta Red with rosewood board (a dream bass as Kim Deal had one in the Pixies) and it was the best I've ever played. Couldn't afford the ridiculous 'vintage' price the guy wanted but missing it haunts me still! The second best one I've played is one I still own - a 78 in Siennaburst. Can't find a single thing I don't like about it (other than it's sitting in my studio back in Ireland). Beautiful tone, lovely weight, great neck profile. a gem! [/quote] If you've found 'the one' then hold on to it for sure matey! I've tried lots of different p-basses and they're all different but for the most part still good-great, what I've yet to find is 'the one' that carries the essence of the p-bass for me, there are too many variants, at the very least there'd have to be one with flats for that motown thang and one with rounds for the picky clank thing but there are variants on those too, rosewood/maple, alder/ash all providing different sounds, pickups, neck profiles, all alter the sound... [quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1378274470' post='2197884'] If you wanna try a good one out for a few hours my JV is a good un - and I'ld love to try your ACG's! [/quote] I did have a beautiful jv in oly white with rosewood fingerboard that sounded and felt awesome, not sure why I sold it but it was frickin awesome for playing with a pick doing kinda punky stuff... I'd be happy to meet up to tinker with toys, I can bring an EAD FN212 cab, Crazy 8 cab, LMIII, AI Focus II, a pair of ACG's and an NS NXT4...? Leeds ain't so far away that I couldn't pop for the afternoon one sat/sun sometime?

Traded my Pork Loin in a 3 way trade for Derek's Dean. Really easy deal to set up despite it's international nature and Derek performed his part to the letter. Excellent bc'er, thanks mate!

Traded my Pork Loin with Gilles in a 3 way trade for his Aguilar agro. Really easy deal to set up despite it's international nature and Gilles performed his part to the letter. Excellent bc'er, thanks mate!

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1378208547' post='2196989'] Probably something similar to those on my cream bass above. The knobs are a simple vol/treb/bass (although the circuit is quite complex) and the switches go > single/series/OMG mode (neck pup) > circuit select neck/both/bridge > series/parallel (bridge pup) [/quote] So the knobs do v/t/b but in a passive bass? oo'er!

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1378206610' post='2196945'] Losing the L-2000 active pre is not a bad idea if your after a more chilled P bass type tone. My other main gigger uses a modern MFD (passive) out of an L-2000 but sounds almost exactly like the Wunkay. I have it with a reversed P pup (also G&L) but almost always only use the neck pup. There you go. You've sussed it. Or you could wire the bridge pup up like an L-1500 and have your choice of old G&L basses. [/quote] So, what would the controls need to do in order to have the L1000 from the middle pup and the L1500 from the bridge pup? This could be a really useful project! [quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1378206340' post='2196938'] The only harsh top end I've ever had is when the "treble boost" switch is engaged, which sounds horrible to me. Other than that, I haven't heard this harshness you have described. You can switch the preamp off. I rarely use it and have my L-2000 running passive all the time. No harshness here, but your ears are different to mine [/quote] [quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1378206674' post='2196947'] I think he meant that whole "P bass on steroids" tone... which to be fair won't be everyone's taste. [/quote] My previous experience of active G&Ls has been (USA 2x L2000, an L2500 an L1505 and a tribby JB-2) that with either of the treble settings on the pre it has a harsh top end that realy grates on my ears an ddoesn't sound at all pleasing, this renders a bunch of the options on the pre useless (to me) and reduces the versatility of the bass, if however I were to modify one to make it more useable and also to remove the treble problem then that'd be worth doing as the wood & hardware parts of the G&L are absolutely top notch!

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1378203925' post='2196896'] Yep spot on. The neck pup is give or take a mil pretty much in the same spot as the wunkay. Me and Neepheid compared our respective G&Ls. I wish we'd done pics now. And ta. [/quote] Does it still have that characteristic harsh G&L top end or does removing the preamp and having a passive wiring loom sweeten it to a more p-bass type thing? There'd be a few unsightly holes in the body too Although...keep both pups, rewire it to be V/V/T and rewire 2 switches to be coil selectors (one for each pup)...that might have possibilities and only leaves one teeny hole in the body!

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1378203203' post='2196875'] Yep. And old ones are increasingly hard to come by now. Although there are ways around it - [b]the L-2000 is close and can be modified in the right direction[/b]. I have a '80 L-1000 in my collection and use it as inspiration to build a bit of Wunkay into all my own personal use basses. My latest present to myself is letting everything else I gig or noodle with just gather dust. It's not even finished yet but I've gigged it twice now. [/quote] Nice 'bass on sofa with puss' type shot matey! The L2000 can be modded to do the L1000? Is one of the pups in roughly the right place then? Keep one pup, rip out the electrics and go passive? ...interesting

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1378201604' post='2196851'] Well I thoroughly recommended you try one. You may end up eating that old sea boot. [/quote] It's a shame they're not a current production model isn't it Does anyone build a replica/reissue of them?

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1378133916' post='2196108'] This Pino Palladino Sig Precision on here at £2000. The best Precision, actually scratch that, the best bass I`ve ever played. http://basschat.co.uk/topic/216057-usa-fender-custom-shop-pino-palladino-p-bass/ [/quote] Yoda! This is fenders finest!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1378124162' post='2195938'] Lakland 44-64. [url="http://www.lakland.com/44-64.htm"]http://www.lakland.com/44-64.htm[/url] [/quote] Never tried a passive lakland but I have loved both my 55-02, this is a definite possibility for a soon bass!

[quote name='grunge666' timestamp='1378139885' post='2196192'] G&L L2000 - try a tribute series and save a few quid! [/quote] I kinda like g&l, have had 2 usa l2000 basses and sold 'em cos I didn't like the harsh top end out of those pups... what I want is a passive p that looks like a p but oozes quality unlike a fender...?

Following on from this thread: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/214852-my-p-bass-is-a-jedi-master/page__fromsearch__1"]http://basschat.co.u...__fromsearch__1[/url] which was about how versatile and 'right' sounding the p-bass is but how this one brand makes a much better p bass than a vintage fender... I'm curious to know... If I was looking for a rosewood fingerboard, alder body p-bass, passive, 4 string but without any of the usual Fender foibles (dead spots, neck dive, inconsistent sound, iffy q.a. etc etc) where should I look and what should I try...? Other requirements... It must be p-bass shaped! No relicing - this is something earned not produced in a factory! Budget would be anywhere between £200 and £2000 to leave the playing field nice & open