Cestrian Posted Sunday at 15:56 Posted Sunday at 15:56 On another note - Jazzmaster bass, what a fantastic idea! Quote
jonno1981 Posted Sunday at 16:04 Posted Sunday at 16:04 I can understand shipping damage as it’s outside the builders control. This however…. These issues must have been present when it was boxed up and were missed or ignored. I really hope the builder is willing to be reasonable and get you a working bass as described with no issues and an acceptable finish. I’d send it back and ask for the issues to be rectified or a refund. Unless they jump all over this I’d lose faith very quickly and write them off for any future business. 2 Quote
Happy Jack Posted Sunday at 16:07 Posted Sunday at 16:07 On a slightly more constructive note, rather than naming & shaming at this stage or threatening legal action, why don't you politely email him with a link to this thread on Basschat and ask him how he thinks you should proceed? 13 Quote
N64Lover Posted Sunday at 16:15 Author Posted Sunday at 16:15 I am definitely not going to name and shame but I will share this thread with him. It's also no where near the point of anything like legal action! I am sure he will be reasonable once we have discussed what to do moving forward, it's early yet. 2 Quote
snorkie635 Posted Sunday at 16:20 Posted Sunday at 16:20 3 minutes ago, N64Lover said: I am definitely not going to name and shame but I will share this thread with him. It's also no where near the point of anything like legal action! I am sure he will be reasonable once we have discussed what to do moving forward, it's early yet. Wherever s/he is in Europe, there must be something akin to Trading Standards to whom you can appeal? 3 Quote
HeadlessBassist Posted Sunday at 16:24 Posted Sunday at 16:24 Yes, I'm afraid that level of finishing looks like the day before plant shutdown at Corona, but worse. I would definitely not accept that level of damage or sloppy workmanship for that kind of money. Get it sent back and rectified. As others have said, it's the luthier's name and reputation at stake here. 5 Quote
Wolverinebass Posted Sunday at 16:51 Posted Sunday at 16:51 I'd never accept that. The scratches are in themselves beyond any level of acceptability for a new instrument. I don't care if it cost 3 grand or 400 quid, that'd be going back if it was like that. No ifs, no buts. The fact the Luthier has tried to justify this is really properly poor behaviour. Rectified with no shipping costs paid by yourself and a discount for the fact that they shipped a below par instrument to you or full refund. That's the way I'd go. 5 Quote
LukeFRC Posted Sunday at 17:09 Posted Sunday at 17:09 slightly contry to the popular opinion... How thin is the finish and how much temperature change was there between you and the builder? If the builder was going for a very thin nitro finish, and there was a bit of temperature change between building it and you receiving it- it could have got that sort of cracks. The anndized guard looks like the screw holes are counter sunk - so care has been taken on at least some parts. The neck finishing looks weird - like the fretboards and binding wasn't masked off when the frets were being dressed - my guess (just on the lack of care) is it's a neck bought in rather than made by the builder? Electronics issues doesn't sound great mind. But should be able to be fixed. BUT love the colour - a green jazz master bass with a gold guard is like amazing! Quote
miles'tone Posted Sunday at 19:00 Posted Sunday at 19:00 (edited) So sorry to see this, I feel for you. If the luthier will read this thread I think it's also worth pointing out that some of the fret tangs are showing through the binding where they shouldn't and those black switch screws look a bit pis$ed, screwed in on an angle. Totally unacceptable level of care taken here. I hope you get a full refund so you can get one made properly elsewhere as that is a fab idea for a bass you came up with there. Edited Sunday at 19:03 by miles'tone 3 Quote
pierreganseman Posted Sunday at 21:21 Posted Sunday at 21:21 (edited) return. While not crazy money for a custom - still substantial money. even 500 euro sire come better finishes Edited Sunday at 21:23 by pierreganseman 3 Quote
Joe Nation Posted yesterday at 07:31 Posted yesterday at 07:31 Don't name and shame until you've put your points across to the builder and got a response - don't let the Basschat horde persuade you otherwise. At the very least they should be given a fair and unbiased chance to right their wrongs. I'd be pushing for full repair/refinish etc, FOC including shipping. Failing that, a hefty partial refund to cover the cost of someone else doing the work (maybe get some quotes if you can). Last resort for me would be a full refund (I assume you want to keep it and they certainly don't want it back). 7 Quote
slowTwitch Posted yesterday at 09:34 Posted yesterday at 09:34 Any decent luthier would be ashamed to send that out as a representation of their work. That they did is a red flag. 3 Quote
kodiakblair Posted yesterday at 10:59 Posted yesterday at 10:59 3 hours ago, Joe Nation said: Don't name and shame until you've put your points across to the builder and got a response - don't let the Basschat horde persuade you otherwise. At the very least they should be given a fair and unbiased chance to right their wrongs. Totally agree. 1 Quote
N64Lover Posted yesterday at 12:08 Author Posted yesterday at 12:08 4 hours ago, Joe Nation said: Don't name and shame until you've put your points across to the builder and got a response - don't let the Basschat horde persuade you otherwise. At the very least they should be given a fair and unbiased chance to right their wrongs. I agree, this is what's happening. 3 Quote
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Was this handcrafted in steptoe’s back yard ? Is the builder an alcoholic , or falling on tough times? Sorry to be so blunt , but times are hard as it is . Are you able to claim small courts if the builder denies responsibility etc? Hope everything gets sorted . 1 Quote
Obrienp Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Agree with all the views about this being unacceptable. My experience of commissioning a custom bass, which was also a bit of a prototype for the luthier. He was having problems with his spray booth at the time. He made several attempts to get the vintage sunburst right. Showed me the second iteration, while saying I think this is too orange isn’t it. I was about to say actually it’s not bad and he said, I’ll strip it and start again. Third time round, it was spot on as far as I was concerned but he wasn’t entirely happy with it. He had other orders backing up and I said I could live with it but he insisted on giving me a 40% discount! In the end it came out about the same price as Fender were charging for a MIM Mustang P/J. That was with Babicz bridge, expensive machine heads, etc. Later, when I said I was getting a bit of hum (despite the whole thing being shielded with copper tape), he identified a possible phasing issue with the pickups and rewound them for free. He also gave it a free after care service at the 6 month point: dressed any sprouting frets from the fingerboard drying out, set the action, etc. In my view you should be looking for all the issues to be sorted and a hefty discount for the inconvenience. The luthier should pay for any return shipping costs as well. 4 Quote
Terry M. Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Totally unacceptable like others have stated. The irony is how much individuals will pay for a relic-finished bass. Now THAT totally escapes my understanding but I'm digressing now. Hope you get this sorted. 2 Quote
jd56hawk Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Sharing the builder's name will not deter those who have had good experiences, but it might help potential buyers from getting screwed. Quote
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