bubinga5 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) Ok I will go with a John East U Retro. I does everything I need. I'l be honest it's a bit wobbly on the controls. But this thing sounds incredible to be honest. Had a Sonus 2 band before,. Didnt like. The Glock stuff is wow What your favorite pre.? Edited June 3, 2018 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Does your interpretation of Preamp only include on-board electrics? As a rule, I prefer passive basses, generally plugging these into any manner of Tech 21 stuff; BDDI, GED2112 or the new kid on the block, the intense dUg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, NancyJohnson said: Does your interpretation of Preamp only include on-board electrics? As a rule, I prefer passive basses, generally plugging these into any manner of Tech 21 stuff; BDDI, GED2112 or the new kid on the block, the intense dUg. Yes only on board Nancy. This is a onboard preamp favourite. Glock Noll Delano Pope East Sadowsky Audere ACG Bartolini Fender GB electronics Aguilar Xotic Alembic Haz Labs Creation Audio Tone Styler I'm sure there are lots more Edited June 3, 2018 by bubinga5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drTStingray Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Musicman (2, 3 or 4 band versions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 EBS P2 2 bands (not made anymore, but very transparent and cleverly made with that mid switch). Aries home made 3 bands (the best chosen frequencies, never aggressive and always musical). Mike Pope Flexcore 4 bands (transparent and way more versatile than the Fodera 3 bands). Bazzz Haz Labs Ken Smith / Fodera 3 bands clone (absolutely not transparent, but what a growl). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Smalls Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Wouldn't know... I'd be foolish to tear out the Wal electronics and place something inferior in there! 😁 However, I'm getting excellent results with a rackmount BBE pre-amp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skidder652003 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) I've got a Glock on my Ray 5, TBH I have no idea if its superior to the MM Pre (in a box under the bed) as I've never heard the Ray pre! Edited June 3, 2018 by skidder652003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I have the emg system in my favourite bass not sure what model it is next up I would go aguilar opb3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuzzie Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Glock is good EMG BTC and BTS are great, and their solderless system is pretty cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I’ve only ever had East pres in my Jazzes. Stunning sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I love the pre amp in the Sire basses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, bubinga5 said: Yes only on board Nancy. This is a onboard preamp favourite. OK. I've had a few. Whatever was on an old Warwick Streamer, The Bongo 5HH and a John East Retro. [edit: I did have an 18v EMG thing on a Precision and I think an old Ibanez Musician had actives, but it was a long time ago.) I'd say the Bongo was the best by a country mile, so long as you didn't abuse it. I'd start off with everything flat and just tweak to accommodate who and where I was playing, but by the end of the night after some excessive twiddling, everything would be ramped up full and it would sound horrific. I'd say the Bongo was the reason I decided to go passive thereafter. (I even posted a thread here at the time asking whether I could pull the active stuff out somehow; it was kinder to just sell it on.) Edited June 3, 2018 by NancyJohnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) For me, personally, the Sire has too many variable parameters, it's too fidly and i have to keep looking up what knob does what online. I mostly use mine in passive mode these days, it's just easier to find a good tone. Edited June 3, 2018 by Cato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Cato said: For me, personally, the Sire has too many variable parameters, it's too fidly and i have to keep looking up what knob does what online. I mostly use mine in passive mode these days, it's just easier to find a good tone. While i too use mine mostly passive, because I find it to be a really nice tone, i find it surprising you have to keep looking up what each knob does. Low, mid with sweep and high seems pretty simple to remember IME. Each to his/her own though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said: While i too use mine mostly passive, because I find it to be a really nice tone, i find it surprising you have to keep looking up what each knob does. Low, mid with sweep and high seems pretty simple to remember IME. Each to his/her own though. Thats 3 out of the 7 knobs you've accounted for. I know what the controls are supposed to do in theory, I just lose track of exactly which one is doing what. Then i just switch the bass to passive and it ceases to be a distraction. Edited June 3, 2018 by Cato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 6 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said: I’ve not had the pleasure, but if there anywhere near the 3 band, they get my vote 😀 They do ! 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Cato said: Thats 3 out of the 7 knobs you've accounted for. I know what the controls are supposed to do in theory, I just lose track of exactly which one is doing what. Then i just switch the bass to passive and it ceases to be a distraction. Why not just get a passive jazz.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I like more the pasdive basses. One tone and this mostly full closed. One on-board preamp i would like to try is the passinwind. I have only one active bass,vig cobra. Artec preamp 3-band,replaced it without reason with artec 3-band+parametric mid. Sound nice. For me the best is to dial the tone from the preamp of the amp and not on-board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, bubinga5 said: Why not just get a passive jazz.? I've got one. The Sire is my only fretless though. To be honest I haven't spent as much time with it as I should have, hence the unfamiliarity with the controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodinblack Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 I like the glock in my ibanez prestige. Although it doesn't sound much different to the original, except the original treble didn't work, so I guess it does work differently! The artec that I put in the iceman is good, the ones in the ibanezes otherwise are good. Frankly, I can't say there are any preamps in any of my basses that I actually notice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Cato said: Thats 3 out of the 7 knobs you've accounted for. Four actually (mid with sweep is two knobs on its own). Seven might be a lot of knobs but it's pretty straightforward -- compared to a Wal or ACG filter setup, the Sire preamp is simplicity itself. It's my joint favourite, along with Jon Shuker's 3-band eq. Edited June 3, 2018 by Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Cato said: Thats 3 out of the 7 knobs you've accounted for. I know what the controls are supposed to do in theory, I just lose track of exactly which one is doing what. Then i just switch the bass to passive and it ceases to be a distraction. Hmmm, ive only got 6 knobs on mine. 3 for active only and the other 3 work in both modes. Are you counting the duel knobs as 2? if so that's 8. I must admit i only use the mid/sweep knob in active mode when i use the preamp, and that one is easy to remember as its a dual knob. Way more easy than the P-Retro i had for a while. I'd be happy with a passive Sire, i like the new and feel of the bass. Active is just a plus really. Edited June 3, 2018 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, dave_bass5 said: Hmmm, ive only got 6 knobs on mine. 3 for active only and the other 3 work in both modes. Are you counting the duel knobs as 2? if so that's 8. I'm counting stacked controls as two knobs. Are you counting the active/passive switch as a knob? Because that's the only way I can count eight knobs on the Sire. (This is the kind of conversation you just don't get anywhere else). Edited June 3, 2018 by Cato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Of the ones that I have tried, maybe 3 or 4 on the list, I do like the ACG filter amps for fretless basses and probably the East items for more traditional 3-band preamps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepurpleblob Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) I'm probably sounding a bit curmudgeonly here but I've yet to find a pre-amp (and I've had a reasonable selection of these here) that does anything useful above and beyond just setting it flat or having a passive bass. I generally play through a SansAmp RBI which, granted, has a sound of its own but for tweaking out the room characteristics the knobs on that do the job. Having said all that, I've never really subscribed to the "my sound" thing. Sounding like a bass will do fine 😀 I had an ACG for a while and, while I loved the bass, the EQ was completely beyond me. There didn't seem to be an obvious 'turn the damn thing off' position. That's mostly why it went. Edited June 4, 2018 by thepurpleblob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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