Beedster Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1456326057' post='2987885'] Why everyone in the 80s used one on fretless bass, I have no idea! [/quote] Kept 'em in tune Tom, or more correctly, made it harder to identify that they weren't in tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliasMooseblaster Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 [quote name='jazzyvee' timestamp='1456319809' post='2987767'] Well if anyone has any links to someone playing clean fretless bass playing with no effects at all I'd be interested in hearing what it sounds like. [/quote] Here we go: no chorus, no other effects, and minimal sliding around the place http://cherrywhite.bandcamp.com/track/angel [/shameless self-plug] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybertect Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 [quote name='jazzyvee' timestamp='1456319809' post='2987767'] Well if anyone has any links to someone playing clean fretless bass playing with no effects at all I'd be interested in hearing what it sounds like. [/quote] Listen to the Rolling Stones. Bill Wyman played a fretless in the studio. No chorus because it hadn't been invented yet. Prime example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4irXQhgMqg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilp Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Some people think fretless is an effect in itself. I do occasionally use chorus on fretless, but I use it occasionally on fretted too! To be honest, if I could find a fretless Aria SB1000 I wouldn't own a fretted bass at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I have never used chorus, reverb or any other effect on fretless bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubrad Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I'm sure I read, back in the day, that Jaco's 'chorus' effect was in fact achieved by running two stacks(!) with an extremely short delay between them. Applying finger vibrato then gives you an immense sound, kinda manual chorus. Tried it once with two amps, brill sound but I really wasn't up for doubling the amount of gear I already carried! Meself, I hardly use effects, preferring rather to use my fingers, but if I do then chorus/uni-vibe can be fun especially on more fixed notes such as natural harmonics. Each to their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealting Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Gary Willis plays fretless direct to amp. I don't think he even uses the EQ. http://youtu.be/XzIucGD9YOQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzyvee Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 Yeah I love Gary Willis's playing and am a big tribal tech fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFitzgerald Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I like a little light delay and using a certain style of vibrato which rolls around the finger which never actually moves on the string. The nett result is a natural chorus effect. And yes, I do play harmonics quite a bit on fretless. With the same delay and the neck wobble effect. (Hold the upper horn with the plucking hand and wobble the bass back and forward gently) that also gives a natural chorus effect. That's how I do it. And I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I've got a chorus on my board, but I have an aversion to using it when I play fretless - I don't think twice about it when I'm playing a fretted bass, but there's something that makes me want to avoid using it on the fretless. I think it's called 'taste'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburstjazz1967 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 John Deacon played a lot of straight up no mwah fretless, maybe to the point not many people realised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Our youngest plays my fretless (exclusively...) direct into the Hiwatt for all of our pop-rock covers repertoire. No-one listening knows (nor cares...) that it's a fretless. It's a bass like any other, to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFitzgerald Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I'm often accused of playing fretless when I'm playing a fretted bass. I should probably be insulted but I take it as a compliment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Listen to Rod Clements on the early Lindisfarne material - it's a fretless Precision and sometimes a fretless Rickenbacker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburstjazz1967 Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Does pulling the frets from ricky reduce the neck dive I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1456349194' post='2988232'] Listen to Rod Clements on the early Lindisfarne material - it's a fretless Precision and sometimes a fretless Rickenbacker. [/quote] He had a great sound on the first three albums. Bloody good player too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) http://youtu.be/MYPBF4s8m_Y Edited February 24, 2016 by EssentialTension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 [quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1456347193' post='2988193'] John Deacon played a lot of straight up no mwah fretless, maybe to the point not many people realised? [/quote] Please can someone tell me how you kill the mwahh on a fretless. I've tried relaxing the truss rod on mine, in the hope that it will help, but I still find I get fed up with it sounding like a sittar. I'm playing a fretless Streamer with Chromes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1456351099' post='2988269'] Please can someone tell me how you kill the mwahh on a fretless. I've tried relaxing the truss rod on mine, in the hope that it will help, but I still find I get fed up with it sounding like a sittar. I'm playing a fretless Streamer with Chromes. [/quote] Fingers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alyctes Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Now I have GAS for a chorus pedal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='alyctes' timestamp='1456352414' post='2988293'] Now I have GAS for a chorus pedal... [/quote] Now I have GAS for fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinball Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1456322997' post='2987822'] Or one of my favourite players: [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPSriFxA6r0"]https://www.youtube....h?v=XPSriFxA6r0[/url] [/quote] That is beautiful, love it. Thanks for putting up the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburstjazz1967 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1456351099' post='2988269'] Please can someone tell me how you kill the mwahh on a fretless. I've tried relaxing the truss rod on mine, in the hope that it will help, but I still find I get fed up with it sounding like a sittar. I'm playing a fretless Streamer with Chromes. [/quote] Resist the urge to slide into the next note, the problem with that is you need to be able to 'stop' a note bang in tune time and time again, you can still slide into position but you do it without the note ringing out, as soon as you pluck and move or hang around on a note adjusting it's pitch....mwah! Of course the mwah can be good so I'm not knocking those that do but the players like Deacon I enjoy where they play it straight and it sounds fretted most of the time but with the odd mwah here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefbaker Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Also maybe tapewounds will have less mwah on them than chromes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='JohnFitzgerald' timestamp='1456347606' post='2988202'] I'm often accused of playing fretless when I'm playing a fretted bass. I should probably be insulted but I take it as a compliment. [/quote] ...or a sign that you need to tune up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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