ras52 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Jaco's first album has chorus on just one track IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefbaker Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1456395508' post='2988486'] Jaco's first album has chorus on just one track IIRC. [/quote] True Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1456382987' post='2988403'] Now I have GAS for fingers. [/quote] Phew! Thought you were gonna say sitar;) They should be burned to ashes. Hate that sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1456403803' post='2988593'] Phew! Thought you were gonna say sitar;) They should be burned to ashes. Hate that sound [/quote] I'd rather listen to a well played sitar than a chichéd chorus-drenched fretless bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1456406313' post='2988633'] I'd rather listen to a well played sitar than a chichéd chorus-drenched fretless bass [/quote] I'd rather listen to a badly played kazoo than a chichéd chorus-drenched fretless bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefbaker Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1456406602' post='2988640'] I'd rather listen to a badly played kazoo than a chichéd chorus-drenched fretless bass. [/quote] Two exceptions (but only because they kicked that sh*t off) Continuum by Jaco and Wherever I lay my hat because Pino nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Some mild compression also works well with fretless. Personally I very rarely use a chorus pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1456406313' post='2988633'] I'd rather listen to a well played sitar than a chichéd chorus-drenched fretless bass [/quote] Id rather listen to Adele , than a sitar . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh971 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1456351099' post='2988269'] Please can someone tell me how you kill the mwahh on a fretless. I've tried relaxing the truss rod on mine, in the hope that it will help, but I still find I get fed up with it sounding like a sittar. I'm playing a fretless Streamer with Chromes. [/quote] More neck bow (though you've tried that), raise the bridge saddles, use more neck pickup than bridge pickup, roll the tone back, roll off some upper mids at the amp. Though some fretless basses get much more mwah than others. Hugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefbaker Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='Hugh971' timestamp='1456409984' post='2988719'] Though some fretless basses get much more mwah than others. [/quote] Yeah, I had an old mexican fretless jazz that wouldn't mwah unless you put rounds on it. Sold it off in the end. Hated the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkandrew Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='keefbaker' timestamp='1456400744' post='2988543'] True [/quote] No, that was Spandau Ballet and Martin Kemp didn't actually play any bass on that, it was all synth bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='darkandrew' timestamp='1456424451' post='2988946'] No, that was Spandau Ballet and Martin Kemp didn't actually play any bass on that, it was all synth bass. [/quote] B-bum tish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1456351099' post='2988269'] Please can someone tell me how you kill the mwahh on a fretless. [/quote] Take the bass to a reputable luthier & get it fretted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='Hugh971' timestamp='1456409984' post='2988719'] More neck bow (though you've tried that), raise the bridge saddles, use more neck pickup than bridge pickup, roll the tone back, roll off some upper mids at the amp. Though some fretless basses get much more mwah than others. Hugh [/quote] Hi Hugh, Actually I posted a bit prematurely. I only did the truss relaxation shortly before posting. I tried the bass again this morning and the mwahh is now much more manageable. So, I'm a lot happier now. Thanks Hugh and thanks to all others, even the silly answers too, Cheers Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFitzgerald Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 How to kill the mwahh on a fretless ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprocketflup Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Pop along to a Cloudbusting gig, I dont use any effects at all, and around 50% of the songs we play are fretless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'd play fretless all the time, except that for my metal band I need the 'clank' of round wounds on the speed bumps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Interesting that you mention metal Paul. I read in magazines back in the '80s /'90s that metal& fretless don't go. Amazing the amount of metal bands that do use fretless now. So I guess fretless is good for metal ( sorry about your situation tho') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorR Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Mo Foster plays some lovely fretless on his solo albums... http://youtu.be/ribitQEUA3A http://youtu.be/xGKilB2xalE http://youtu.be/pZpx-rswKiA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='JohnFitzgerald' timestamp='1456430776' post='2989040'] How to kill the mwahh on a fretless ? ? [/quote] A certain amount of mwahh is good, but when it get to sound more like a sitar it does my brain in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1456437795' post='2989135'] A certain amount of mwahh is good, but when it get to sound more like a sitar it does my brain in. [/quote] I don't much like mwaah but I love sitar - to me they do not sound at all alike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Rock Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 (edited) [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1456440503' post='2989177'] I don't much like mwaah but I love sitar - to me they do not sound at all alike. [/quote] I can sort of get the comparison though, the way a note 'blooms' with both instruments Edited February 25, 2016 by Roland Rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1456428883' post='2989002'] Hi Hugh, Actually I posted a bit prematurely. I only did the truss relaxation shortly before posting. I tried the bass again this morning and the mwahh is now much more manageable. So, I'm a lot happier now. Thanks Hugh and thanks to all others, even the silly answers too, Cheers Rich [/quote] I wasn't being silly when I said fingers, I think it's idiotic to reduce the potential of an instrument when the same effects can be achieved through technique. You'll 'kill' the mwah by either reducing the pressure on the string slightly and/or not sliding or moving - even almost imperceptibly - into notes. It doesn't happen by itself, it takes fingers to produce that effect. Removing the effect by raising action or increasing relief will probably introduce a new set of problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunburstjazz1967 Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 ^ agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Yes, certain things about the setup of the instrument will make so-called mwaah more noticeable but it's in your fingers really and it's possible to 'play it straight' on a fretless and it will still sound and feel different to a fretted instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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