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Hey Guys,

I just spend almost all my money and plan to spend the rest of it on gear,

so i want to have it insured just in case!

my families house insurance only covers your stuff over £500 when its at home, once taken out the house the contrcat is seen as broken,

i went through all this with my trombone, but when i joined an orchestra they had insurance that covers every member all the time

that was that sorted,

so i want to insure my Bass and amps and all that jazz

where do i go? how much will it cost? etc

anyone?

Adam,

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[quote name='AttitudeCastle' post='627688' date='Oct 16 2009, 11:22 AM']when i joined an orchestra [b]they had insurgence [/b][/quote]

Wow, Don't tell MI6!

[url="http://www.allianzmusicalinsurance.co.uk/"]http://www.allianzmusicalinsurance.co.uk/[/url]
Specialist musical insurance. Been great for me especially my precious and rare saxes, as well as my basses.

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[quote name='OldGit' post='627708' date='Oct 16 2009, 11:40 AM']Wow, Don't tell MI6!

[url="http://www.allianzmusicalinsurance.co.uk/"]http://www.allianzmusicalinsurance.co.uk/[/url]
Specialist musical insurance. Been great for me especially my precious and rare saxes, as well as my basses.[/quote]


oops! >_> lol

well there is this shifty russian lad jokes

he is ace :)

oh, also it would be MI5

as that is security of this country, not threats from out side the country out side the country

sorry to be picky, i watch to much bond... lol

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[quote name='owen' post='627742' date='Oct 16 2009, 12:14 PM']If you join the Musicians Union they have free cover up to £2000.[/quote]

... and don't forget the with the MU you also get free public liability cover in case anyone sues you for damaging their hearing or dropping a bass cab on their foot :)

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[quote name='Mateybass' post='631020' date='Oct 20 2009, 01:13 AM']... and don't forget the with the MU you also get free public liability cover in case anyone sues you for damaging their hearing or dropping a bass cab on their foot :)[/quote]


... or crashing into your PA and having a top box fall on their head ... because they are blind drunk and can't control their feet ...

Only really need it for a whole band though ...

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We just went through this process here at home. I looked at dedicated instrument insurance and it was usually >£!00. Joining MU is, what, £150? To get us extra cover on our house insurance for high value items taken out of the home up to a value of, say, £3K added an extra £20 or so to the premium. Seemed the best solution to me.

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[quote name='Paul S' post='631102' date='Oct 20 2009, 09:29 AM']We just went through this process here at home. I looked at dedicated instrument insurance and it was usually >£!00. Joining MU is, what, £150? To get us extra cover on our house insurance for high value items taken out of the home up to a value of, say, £3K added an extra £20 or so to the premium. Seemed the best solution to me.[/quote]

Make sure it covers musical instruments used for pro or semi pro performance in a public place, assuming that's what you do with it.
Find out the definitions now rather than after some oik has nicked your pride and joy from your car.

As [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Txqmgr1k0Y"]Tom Waits Once Sang [/url] "The big print giveth and the small print taketh away"

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I used these guys for my house insurance: [url="http://www.ehomeinsurance.co.uk/"]http://www.ehomeinsurance.co.uk/[/url]

And paid an additional premium to specifically cover musical instruments for professional use outside the home :)

We've just had to claim for damage to a ceiling following leaky pipes & they were brilliant.

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I did a quick tot-up of my gear's (estimated) price and it came in at a surprising 5-figure plus sum, so I decided it's time to kick Direct Line to the kerb for instrument insurance and go specialist. I looked at a load of providers and went with MusicGuard in the end. I think what swung it was their percentage "out of the house" policy, where you can define how much of your gear is likely to go travelling with you.

Others I looked at were:
www.quotiva.co.uk
www.allianzmusicalinsurance.co.uk
www.eandl.co.uk
www.victorcknight.co.uk
www.larkinsurance.co.uk
www.endsleigh.co.uk/musical-instruments
www.clarionins.com

I can't remember exactly why I rejected the others, but there must have been good reasons :)

What they do ask for though is (a) proof of ownership in the event of a claim and (2) vintage and rare gear needs a recent valuation (within three years).

So I asked them what constitutes proof of ownership. A picture with me and the equipment, or a receipt detailing the equipment. What I did was take a dated digital picture of everything with a hard copy of the policy in shot. As for valuations, I asked what constituted vintage or rare, and they said that's up to me - if it's not easily replaceable then it qualifies. Today I picked up a valuation from a pro for two guitars, and one came in £1k more than I'd guessed at, the other £500 more. So up goes the premium, but then again that's the point of it really, I suppose.

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[quote name='xgsjx' post='631419' date='Oct 20 2009, 03:24 PM']I'm with Direct line for my home insurance & it will cover my gear upto whatever I specify I need & have double checked & is covered worldwide for semi pro use (I should be so lucky!).[/quote]

Direct Line were vague with me about overseas use, which was one of the reasons I stopped using them. No precise in-car policy (musicguard are very clear about this), and also no cover if you're earning money from gigging.

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[quote name='KevB' post='631501' date='Oct 20 2009, 04:38 PM']I took out insurance with Endsleigh specifically for music gear, think I'm insured up to 2-3K for under 40 quid per year. Almost as soon as I took it out the band folded and I've not been regularly gigging since![/quote]


Likewise my Two Warwicks are insured for £3000 Each and i paid £46 for the year, it covers theft from home and gigs, damage at gigs, damage at home, theft from locked automobiles, pretty much everything that could happen, i had my House Insurance at uni with them for 3 years, never had any trouble back then, but then again nothing bad happened!

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  • 1 month later...

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='679090' date='Dec 9 2009, 02:23 PM']Just bumping an old thread to say I've just switched from Musicguard to Endsleigh, and my premium dropped from £280 to £180 for comparable cover.

SHAZAM![/quote]

Oh wow.

Nice one mate, I would imagine I'd get a similar reduction then. Cool!

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Brilliant, just looking for insurance at the moment as I have been far too lucky for too many years and just started gigging again. I thought hmm I wonder if this has been covered on basschat......tada! of course it has. Cheers for all of the providers, just got to see who is the cheapest now.

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[quote name='AttitudeCastle' post='627688' date='Oct 16 2009, 10:22 AM']Hey Guys,

I just spend almost all my money and plan to spend the rest of it on gear,

so i want to have it insured just in case!

my families house insurance only covers your stuff over £500 when its at home, once taken out the house the contrcat is seen as broken,

i went through all this with my trombone, but when i joined an orchestra they had insurance that covers every member all the time

that was that sorted,

so i want to insure my Bass and amps and all that jazz

where do i go? how much will it cost? etc

anyone?

Adam,[/quote]

Use specialist cover such as Endsleigh. I tried to cover my instruments and amps on my home insurance and was quoted over £50 per item. Just a ridiculous figure at the end of the day.

Iain

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I was going to recommend Musicguard as well - good customer service & a decent price compared to some other I looked at. However, having read the rest of this thread, I think I might be looking at Endsleigh when my cover is up for renewal! Shame it's not until December...

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I haven't tried Endsleigh - sounds like an excellent deal. Will look next time.

I've had Musicguard on & off for over 10 years - I think they were one of the few available at that time. Always been really good. Public liability is included & it covers in-car, out of the home - pretty well all possibilities.

I only had to claim once - way back in the beginning. My harmonica player had his van stolen (not while at a gig or anything) with all his kit in it (& pretty well all his worldly possessions!) - amazing how much a bag full of harmonicas adds up to, plus amps, mics, cables etc. They paid up immediately - no questions. In fact as far as I remember their main concern was to make sure we had claimed enough!

Cheers, Andy

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This might sound like a stupid question... hell, I'm pretty sure it is. Anyway, how do you go about figuring out how much to insure your instruments for? Especially when they're modded and thus pretty much unique. Do you take the RRP (or street price?) of the instrument and then add on the cost of the mods and how much it'd be (if anything) to have them fitted/routed/painted/whatever? Or would insurance only pay out to the value of the original, unmodded bass? Out of my 5 basses, only 1 is stock (the SUB), so this is a pretty important factor to me.

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