Gary Bloomfield Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Can someone point me in the right direction please need to use headphones while playing. learning . Dont want wired set Would prefer wireless bluetooth any info as to a good mid priced set and also what do i use to transmit sound from my combo practice amp Cheers Gsry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 You'll have to go wired as there's too much latency on Bluetooth. Your practice amp should have a headphone jack. If you want a set that give a very honest and natural bass sound then I'd recommend Beyerdynamic DT770pro. They're really comfortable (big ear cups that cover your whole ear and velour pads which aren't hot and sweaty like some pleather types), light and the headband isn't too tight. Reasonably priced too! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) I think the main thing you might come up against is lag, latency... Sennhieser HD206 @ £20 have a long 3m lead. I use 'em with my Zoom B1on. Edited November 30, 2022 by PaulThePlug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 These are great for DAW work and practising. If the leads get faulty you can replace them. You also get a spare pair of cups and they come with a decent case. Studiospares M2000 MK2 Studio Headphones - UK Stock - Studiospares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 The above are 'Open-Back'. If you want 'Closed-Back', the link below is the same company, but about a tenner more; M1000 MK2 Studio Headphones by Studiospares - UK Stock - Studiospares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Question @ped @PaulThePlug why does lag/latency matter when using headphones for practice? Surely the delay isn't critical In this application, unlike when playing along with others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulThePlug Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) It's probably only a small delay, between finger and ear... but enough to drive ya mad! Edited December 1, 2022 by PaulThePlug 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 The best headphone approach is the Boss Waza Air system https://www.boss.info/uk/products/waza-air_bass/ It's very clever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 13 hours ago, ped said: You'll have to go wired as there's too much latency on Bluetooth. I tried the Ashdown Meters and had this issue, totally unusable for playing an instrument for me. I also had the issue wired, which I can only assume is down to processing and applying of an EQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chyc Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mykesbass said: Question @ped @PaulThePlug why does lag/latency matter when using headphones for practice? Surely the delay isn't critical In this application, unlike when playing along with others? Trust me, you will notice the lag, and it will be a major distraction. I think some Bluetooth codecs offer low latency. AptX from a quick Google says it's less than 40 milliseconds. That's still too much in my book. I think things like laptops measure the latency for Bluetooth and delay things like videos so they sync up with the audio. If they didn't you'd know all about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mykesbass Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, chyc said: Trust me, you will notice the lag, and it will be a major distraction. I think some Bluetooth codecs offer low latency. AptX from a quick Google says it's less than 40 milliseconds. That's still too much in my book. I think things like laptops measure the latency for Bluetooth and delay things like videos so they sync up with the audio. If they didn't you'd know all about it! Of course, I'm forgetting Gary is putting his bass back through the headphones. Schoolboy error here (I always play unplugged so was only considering the signal from the music source). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, fretmeister said: The best headphone approach is the Boss Waza Air system https://www.boss.info/uk/products/waza-air_bass/ It's very clever. Yes..!! It's very good. The price might put people off though. The cheapest I've seen it advertised was around £350. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Beyer Dynamic DT990,s. I prefer the open backed Beyer,s as i found the 770,s closed back design a little boomy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekomatic Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 6 hours ago, chyc said: Trust me, you will notice the lag, and it will be a major distraction. I think some Bluetooth codecs offer low latency. AptX from a quick Google says it's less than 40 milliseconds. That's still too much in my book. Sound travels at roughly 340 m/s, so a 40 millisecond lag is like having your amp fifteen metres away. If you have some long cables and a big room or a dry day, you could try this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Bloomfield Posted December 1, 2022 Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 22 hours ago, ped said: You'll have to go wired as there's too much latency on Bluetooth. Your practice amp should have a headphone jack. If you want a set that give a very honest and natural bass sound then I'd recommend Beyerdynamic DT770pro. They're really comfortable (big ear cups that cover your whole ear and velour pads which aren't hot and sweaty like some pleather types), light and the headband isn't too tight. Reasonably priced too! Cheers Ped. Never even thought about this . Wired it is then longest lead i can find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gary Bloomfield said: Cheers Ped. Never even thought about this . Wired it is then longest lead i can find Yeah maybe one day consumer level headphones will have zero latency like the boss WAZA air system. The Beyers that I mentioned above come with a very long and nice quality (non tangly) cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelDean Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 You could also use in ears with a long extension cable. Years ago, I was in a band that needed IEMs, so had had a 20ft planet waves one taped to my lead so it ended at the right point where my cable went through my strap. It was a really good solution for me and kept things neat and tidy. If I paired that with my current KZ ZX10 IEMs, I'd have been a very happy bunny. Might even need to resurrect the idea for practice now. I do still have that cable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 This topic again and once more. Should there be a sticky here, maybe? Go to a store that has several models. Use some music you know very well. Take the priciest headphones and start listening. Come down the price level step by step, and the first time you hear a difference (except volume), you need to step back one level upwards. There you are. There you have your headphones. I have a pair of special hifi headphones which response surely is everything but flat. But they are ergonomic, because they fit me, and me only. I would not suggest to buy something that fits me: you need to find the ones you want to wear on a daily basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 10 hours ago, fretmeister said: The best headphone approach is the Boss Waza Air system https://www.boss.info/uk/products/waza-air_bass/ It's very clever. This is the way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StickyDBRmf Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Sony MDR-7506 Pro Studio Monitors. I use them for playing Chapman Stick (full-range instrument) and listenin' to music & vids. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 8 hours ago, itu said: This topic again and once more. Should there be a sticky here, maybe? Go to a store that has several models. Use some music you know very well. Take the priciest headphones and start listening. Come down the price level step by step, and the first time you hear a difference (except volume), you need to step back one level upwards. There you are. There you have your headphones. I have a pair of special hifi headphones which response surely is everything but flat. But they are ergonomic, because they fit me, and me only. I would not suggest to buy something that fits me: you need to find the ones you want to wear on a daily basis. That would be amazing in theory but finding somewhere with a number of similar high end types in stock is nigh on impossible. If shops do have headphones they tend to be lower to mid range and their idea of high end are Beats by ‘Dr’ Dre 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 A friend at work wanted to buy some decent headphones so the only way he could do that was to ask everyone to bring theirs in. We did a bit shootout and he ended up buying the Beyers. We did say that a high end headphone shop (‘Headphone House’) would be a great business. You could run it from a van! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ped said: A friend at work wanted to buy some decent headphones so the only way he could do that was to ask everyone to bring theirs in. We did a bit shootout and he ended up buying the Beyers. We did say that a high end headphone shop (‘Headphone House’) would be a great business. You could run it from a van! The Transducer Testing Transit Edited December 2, 2022 by LukeFRC Added even more wit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Headphones @ Home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolo Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 The van with the cans 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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