Jump to content
tomthebass

Would this be sacrilege?

Recommended Posts

Popped an aguilar obp2 into my passive Aria as it's a gorgeous playing and looking bass but lacks a bit of punch. Sounding crisper now but still looking for some more punch. Would this be sacrilege, an irreversible mod to an early 80s classic? (I'd be looking at a pair of 4" ceramic soapbars to match the original pickup routing, just popped these 3.5" EMGs on top to get a sense of the look).

20201229_190912.jpg

20201229_190829.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wouldn’t personally.

the preamp is a reversible mod. The pickup routing is not.

Find a more battered aria for that.

You've made me cry about my sb700. 😞

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

How much is the bass worth?

I've modded relatively expensive basses and still couldn't get what I was after. This has then been made worse by losing a fair bit of money when I've decided to cut my losses and move them on. I would try a few different pickups before I started taking a chisel to the bass (depending on how much it is worth). 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

About 700 I reckon, but there's an identical one for sale on fleabay right now (see above) so we'll find out! Obviously I'd be looking at proper routing, so it would still look the part. A bit like a Vigier? But yes the pickup switcheroo is on the table too, I believe there's a Finn who makes MM-style humbuckers under a stock Aria cover, anyone have any experience?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, tomthebass said:

About 700 I reckon, but there's an identical one for sale on fleabay right now (see above) so we'll find out! Obviously I'd be looking at proper routing, so it would still look the part. A bit like a Vigier? But yes the pickup switcheroo is on the table too, I believe there's a Finn who makes MM-style humbuckers under a stock Aria cover, anyone have any experience?

Ratuia replacement pickup is a fair idea too - he makes all sorts and you won’t have to modify the body.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That's a really pretty bass - I wouldn't do anything irreversible.

👍🏼

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

^^ Likewise

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My SB-1000 had a dead pickup. I found an MB sized aria pickup from a “laser” model aria and had it fitted. Had exposed polepieces in a P configuration.

I much preferred my SB-700 - it sounded like the setting I used the most on the 1000.

God damn it. That 700...

E13DD2F8-3633-4516-9DC2-E9BB6A43EAED.png

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why don’t you send the pickup to someone like Aaron Armstrong and get him to rewind it to a different spec.........or simply replace the bass with something you like better. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm pretty relaxed about changing stuff on instruments, even if they are worth decent money and drills will be involved.  It maybe depends on whether you can foresee ever selling it in the future, and whether there would be a premium for having it in its original condition. If it's a definite keeper then I have no issue with making changes that would be difficult to put back

However...I'd want to be pretty sure that the suggested mod is going to work, and that there isn't a better solution.  F'rinstance, if you want more punch, is there nothing you could add externally, through an eq pedal, a boost, or something like a Darkglass pedal? 

Or could you just swap the existing pickup to do the job - maybe something like a MM humbucker (if you can find one to fit the shape of the existing routing) to add punch without needing an extra p/u?  What do the proposed two soapbars give you that you couldn't also get from a single new pickup?

So I'm not saying don't do it, I'm simply saying be very sure before you start cutting into the bass

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 hours ago, tomthebass said:

Popped an aguilar obp2 into my passive Aria as it's a gorgeous playing and looking bass but lacks a bit of punch.

Stick a preamp in it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Do what you like to make it suit what YOU want. If it hasn't quite got the sound you want either mod it or move it on. Pointless keeping an instrument that doesn't work for you.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No - please don't hack this up.

From the satin/grain texture finish, I think it's an SB-R60 rather than an Elite I, there's an ever-dwindling number of these around, they've not been made since around 1984, A good proportion of them have already been butchered, by earlier owners who at least had the excuse of considering them cheap, throwaway Japanese rubbish, which is how these were seen for a lot of years - and the reason they're so scarce now.

Swap the pickup, drop in a preamp - any mod that can be reversed isn't something you or any subsequent owner will come to regret.

If you think two pickups will help give you the sound you're after why not look out for an SB-R80, SB-Elite II or SB-ELT?

 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you want to pep up this bass, get a good outboard pre amp, like the EBS Valve Drive, or Sadowsky SBP1.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 hours ago, 4000 said:

Why don’t you send the pickup to someone like Aaron Armstrong and get him to rewind it to a different spec.........or simply replace the bass with something you like better. 

+1 for Aaron Armstrong.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, peteb said:

The Aguilar OBP2 is a preamp

LOL I assumed it was a pickup!

 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
20 hours ago, tomthebass said:

Popped an aguilar obp2 into my passive Aria as it's a gorgeous playing and looking bass but lacks a bit of punch. Sounding crisper now but still looking for some more punch. Would this be sacrilege, an irreversible mod to an early 80s classic? (I'd be looking at a pair of 4" ceramic soapbars to match the original pickup routing, just popped these 3.5" EMGs on top to get a sense of the look).

20201229_190912.jpg

20201229_190829.jpg

No, no, no, no, no. Please don’t butcher this bass. 😫

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the comments and ideas!

Partly the thread was to see how the community sees these basses as classics, and I'm hearing you loud and clear that you do. I respect that, so no panics and no butchery!

For background - I do have other basses with more punch, but this one just has a look and feel and playability that fit so I keep coming back to fiddle with it.

Looks like the single pickup upgrade is the way to go so I'll talk to Aaron and Veijo (but plan to drop in a new one rather than a rewind so I can keep the original unmodded).

Cheers all! Will let you know how it turns out...

Tom

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.



×
×
  • Create New...