silverfoxnik Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 [quote name='Mikey R' timestamp='1339967491' post='1697083'] Ok, what would be really interesting, and would put alot of myths to bed: 1) create a sampled loop of a bass playing live on the day. 2) play this out through a cranked valve amp into one of Alexs cabs 3) put an volt meter or similar measuring device on the output of the amplifier, so that we can get a rough estimate of the RMS voltage (yes, I know P=V^2/R - bear with me) 4) record the spl coming out of the speaker - possibly whist observing from the next county. 5) swap out the valve amp for a solid state amp 6) match the spl 7) measure the voltage RMS required to get the same SPL. 8) calculate the difference in power and / or dB required to match the two. Does anyone have any kit to try out this experiment? [/quote] Sounds like a great idea ! It'd also be good to hear some different basses & different rigs A/B'd against each other when played in the Jam Room with a drummer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottle Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Oh buggeration! I'm on my way back from my honeymoon that weekend - we're literally passing the door on our way back up the M4/M25. D'yer think my new missus will mind me popping in for a few hours? Might need to do some explaining as to why there's a bass and amp in the car on the way down This will be the second Bash I've missed - last year it was my sister's turn to tie the knot that weekend All the best Ian Edited June 18, 2012 by Bottle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I'll be there with me little old Fender P! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfoxnik Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 [quote name='Bottle' timestamp='1340014552' post='1697505'] Oh buggeration! I'm on my way back from my honeymoon that weekend - we're literally passing the door on our way back up the M4/M25. D'yer think my new missus will mind me popping in for a few hours? Might need to do some explaining as to why there's a bass and amp in the car on the way down This will be the second Bash I've missed - last year it was my sister's turn to tie the knot that weekend All the best Ian [/quote] Could be the shortest marriage on record if you try to come to the Bash, Ian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 [quote name='silverfoxnik' timestamp='1340010460' post='1697412'] It'd also be good to hear some different basses & different rigs A/B'd against each other when played in the Jam Room with a drummer . [/quote] Yes, especially if they all use different and expensive tonewoods .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Merton Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I'll be there! I like the vocal workshop idea and Mikey's idea, that could be fun Mert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Great! Re vocal workshop, can people let me know things that they find difficult, or what sort of help they'd be looking for, e.g. i sing lead but am unhappy with my tone i sing backing vocals but don't feel confident i find my voice jams up at a particular place and I can't go higher... i find i struggle with consistency across my range i find i lose my voice very quickly and/or regularly etc If people chip in then I know what I need to cover in detail, or which bits to skip over entirely. The more honest you are the more I can give you what I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 On the vocals issue, the thing I suspect most people will want to ask about is singing and playing a bassline at the same time ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 +1! I would also be interested in a little singing workshop! My problem is that my volume is all over the place, I either sing very quietly for some notes and very loudly for others. I also have quite an abrasive voice, need some tips on how to tame it a little. Id like a Billie Holliday sort of quality if thats ok? Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 The mere thought of attempting to sing in public turns my bowels to water....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1340190701' post='1700611'] The mere thought of attempting to sing in public turns my bowels to water....... [/quote] My singing turns other peoples bowels to water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottle Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 [quote name='silverfoxnik' timestamp='1340035296' post='1698004'] Could be the shortest marriage on record if you try to come to the Bash, Ian? [/quote] Yup I've decided to err on the side of caution, so I'm missing out this one chaps Better luck next year I guess! Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1340191766' post='1700638'] My singing turns other peoples bowels to water [/quote] I'll never be in a choir with you then..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1340193685' post='1700715'] I'll never be in a choir with you then..... [/quote] Swimming not your strong suit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1340193865' post='1700720'] Swimming not your strong suit? [/quote] I swim like a well turned out killer whale, just not whilst losing control of my bowels and hollering in a poor impersonation of a one man s**t storm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I'm in - we'll be living back in the UK by then. Time to pop my bass bash cherry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1340182673' post='1700380']On the vocals issue, the thing I suspect most people will want to ask about is singing and playing a bassline at the same time ...[/quote] Sure. We can look at that, though a lot of being able to do that comes down to proficiency and confidence with both instruments in their own right (voice + guitar/bass), as well as knowing both parts you're trying to do really well by themselves. [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1340184966' post='1700461']Id like a Billie Holliday sort of quality if thats ok?[/quote] I'm really not sure how to respond to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 [quote name='mcgraham' timestamp='1340273294' post='1701966'] I'm really not sure how to respond to this.[/quote] He wants to be a girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1340274716' post='1702005'] He wants to be a girl. [/quote] *shudder* Which of course reminds me of this... [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAveqH5jTc&t=0m44s[/url] Edited June 21, 2012 by mcgraham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merton Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 [quote name='mcgraham' timestamp='1340180509' post='1700306'] Great! Re vocal workshop, can people let me know things that they find difficult, or what sort of help they'd be looking for, e.g. i sing backing vocals but don't feel confident i find i struggle with consistency across my range [/quote] These two. I was doing some "ooohs" over a chorus on Sunday and our guitarist turned ot me and said "ooh, nice!" so the next chorus I totally f**ked it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I should think I'll be along Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I also plan to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 FYI, if anyone is interested in getting some idea of what I can offer for a workshop you can visit [url="http://www.markjwgraham.co.uk"]www.markjwgraham.co.uk[/url] I've also got a growing blog at [url="http://www.markjwgraham.co.uk/blog"]www.markjwgraham.co.uk/blog[/url] that also has clips of issues you might recognise in yourself and how we can address them. [/schpiel] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Definitely can't make it, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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