EssentialTension Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 [quote name='amnesia' timestamp='1333991715' post='1609315'] Calling songs 'numbers'. It upsets me way more than it should and I don't know why! [/quote] It's been around a long time: [quote]A [b]number[/b] in [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music"]music[/url] is a self-contained piece that is combined with other such pieces in a performance. In a concert of popular music, for example, the individual songs or pieces performed are often referred to as "numbers." The term is applied also to sections of large vocal works (such as [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera"]opera[/url], [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oratorio"]oratorio[/url], or [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_theater"]musical[/url]) when the written or printed [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheet_music"]score[/url] for such a work designates the titles of the pieces with sequential numbers, hence the aptness of the term. The use of numerical designations in extended vocal musical works has the practical advantage of facilitating rehearsal plans, especially when their designations include assignment of characters. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_%28music%29"]Wikipedia[/url] [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I believe the Church also lay claim to 'Numbers' back yonder - Hymns were numbered [still are] Passengers yelling 'Number xx' at William Hartley has a nice 100 year urban Myth touch though. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilb Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) From the singer: "When's our next gig again? JESUS CHRIST SAKE!!! Get a fricken diary!!! From the guitarist: "Can you sort of play a bit more like sort of bit less type of line, you know, sort of bit more behind the beat more relaxed type sound? No? " Talking guitarist bullshit. From the drummer " Which do you prefer, the old large crash cymbal I had or my new china?" Cant hear a bloody difference and do not care to be honest. From the venue manager " I will turn the Sky off when you start, OK?" Yeah...righto! Agree, not so much musical phrases but annoying anyway. Edited April 11, 2012 by neilb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobpalt Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Plays like butter is bad enough, but in the United States in America they always seem to say "plays like buttah". What the **** is buttah??? Also, why are a collective of young men or women who sing simple harmonies on stage called boy/girl "bands"? Surely a band has to play instruments of some kind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_skezz Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='bobpalt' timestamp='1334218270' post='1612569']Also, why are a collective of young men or women who sing simple harmonies on stage called boy/girl "bands"? Surely a band has to play instruments of some kind? [/quote] Off the first online dictionary I could find... band[sup]1[/sup][i]n[/i] [b]1.[/b] a company of people having a common purpose; group a band of outlaws [b]2.[/b] (Music, other) a group of musicians playing either brass and percussion instruments only ([b]brass band[/b]) or brass, woodwind, and percussion instruments ([b]concert band[/b] or [b]military band[/b]) [b]3.[/b] (Music / Pop Music) a group of musicians who play popular music, jazz, etc., often for dancing [b]4.[/b] (Music, other) a group of instrumentalists generally; orchestra So in the musical sense, then no, they're not bands. Always had a bit of a bee in my bonnet about that one too - always call them 'groups' myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I sessioned for a hip-hop act a few years ago that continuosly said "That was ill!". That bugged me after a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='bobpalt' timestamp='1334218270' post='1612569'] Also, why are a collective of young men or women who sing simple harmonies on stage called boy/girl "bands"? Surely a band has to play instruments of some kind? [/quote] I have often wondered that, and would call them a Herd of simple harmony singers, but then again how do you define an Instrument ? A scalpel is an Instrument. So i suppose a voice is an Instrument - any Classical singers i have worked with, call their voice and Instrument. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah thomas Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 From a jazz class: "Thirds are half of it." It took me over a year to figure that one out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='the_skezz' timestamp='1334218852' post='1612575'] Always had a bit of a bee in my bonnet about that one too - always call them 'groups' myself. [/quote] I generally call them 'tossers'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='shizznit' timestamp='1334221025' post='1612599'] I sessioned for a hip-hop act a few years ago that continuosly said "That was ill!". That bugged me after a couple of weeks. [/quote] Anyway, I think 'tone' is a perfectly useful word to describe the noise you want to/actually make. It's when people apply some sort of godlike status to the word that annoys me. Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_skezz Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1334224319' post='1612684'] I generally call them 'tossers'. [/quote] Well, that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandelion Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 "Pitchy" A word usually uttered by crappy TV show judges. " You were a bit pitchy in places." Usually accompanied with a reciprocating wavy hand gesture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pietruszka Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='Dandelion' timestamp='1334228258' post='1612786'] "Pitchy" A word usually uttered by crappy TV show judges. " You were a bit pitchy in places." Usually accompanied with a reciprocating wavy hand gesture. [/quote] Never heard that one, sounds like it could be really patronising! Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low End Bee Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I'm with a lot of other posters in detesting 'chops'. Apart from Barnsley ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='shizznit' timestamp='1334221025' post='1612599'] I sessioned for a hip-hop act a few years ago that continuosly said "That was ill!". [/quote] Sick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seashell Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Beat me, Daddio, eight to the bar. .. or don't people tend to say that any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janmaat Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 How about "growl". Seems here in Germany it's referred to as "knurrig". I have no clue what that could possibly be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='seashell' timestamp='1334231259' post='1612872'] Beat me, Daddio, eight to the bar. ...or don't people tend to say that any more? [/quote] Tsk! Not since the advent of young people's 'beat' music and the 'hit parade'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='skej21' timestamp='1333913846' post='1608222'] True, but it's VERY rare to be in an orchestra that has percussion including said 'bass' drum AND a drum kit, so it's very rare that such a distinction is needed... Personally, I think you're right though. The drum on a kit should be referred to as a 'kick' drum. Also makes things easier when you're labelling up the PA and/or recording desk because you can have 'bass' and 'kick'... To conclude. Drummers are idiots! [/quote] Last gig I saw had a concert band with full kit and orchestral bass drum, and a full set of timps too. The difference in sound is unreal, an orchestral bass drum really desevers the name [b]bass[/b], its 'kin [i]HUGE[/i] compared to a namby pamby kick drum, the orchestral drum wasnt even going through the PA, and it dominated the room. Tone, instead of timbre, which is just a 'better' word for it - so there! "Compression kills dynamics" - no it doesnt, not ever, thats like saying "guns kill people" - they dont people (mis)using guns kill people, like people mis-using compressors kills dynamics. Usually stated by people who have absolutely no idea whatsoever about how compressors work, what they sound like, how to really set one up etc etc. Boils my p*** dry in moments. And relax....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='seashell' timestamp='1334231259' post='1612872'] Beat me, Daddio, eight to the bar. .. or don't people tend to say that any more? [/quote] Only in fetish clubs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1334234782' post='1612959'] Boils my p*** dry in moments. [/quote] Another sad example of urine being heated (through emotional stress) to well above its default temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 (edited) [quote name='seashell' timestamp='1334231259' post='1612872'] Beat me, Daddio, eight to the bar. .. or don't people tend to say that any more? [/quote] Two dead and one nearly dead say it on Youtube, and great stuff it is. A serious Girl band... A plink, a plank...........a plinker planker plinker planker [i think that's what they are saying] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZv6hL6aYfQ[/media] Garry Edited April 12, 2012 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaypup Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='janmaat' timestamp='1333971254' post='1608844'] Could be interesting to find / create a multi-lingual glossary, for those interested in Vienna... B is called H in German, and Bflat is called B. Semibreve - "ganze Note" minim - "halbe Note" crotchet - "viertelnote" quaver - "achtelnote" 16th - "sechzehntelnote" chorus - Refrain verse - Strophe bar - Takt though Takt means a couple of things: [url="http://www.dict.cc/?s=takt"]http://www.dict.cc/?s=takt[/url] quieter - leiser louder - lauter [/quote] We had a Hungarian keyboard player the other week and he kept on about playing in the key of 'H' - we just thought he was bonkers. Although he also told us that, 'In zis song, I will be laying down ze carpet!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouMa Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 i cant stand people who say yammy or lakkie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 [quote name='YouMa' timestamp='1334238494' post='1613030'] i cant stand people who say yammy or lakkie. [/quote] No problem with Yammy or Suzi but I never really got on with Kawa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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