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This is why nowadays my "studio" is contained within my Mac.

Well that's the limited to 10 collectors bass, that's hardly comparable with an old '79. Naturally, MM do not need to market that whatsoever. Which, incidentally, are already sold out on MMs site.

Be nice to the guy at the Parcelforce depot, if he wants to have a look at the bass, let him. If he wants to pick it up and have a noodle, let him. For one of my Ishibashi Thunderbirds he did this, I asked how much the duty was and he he just went, 'What duty?' and waved me on my way. Sometime you can get lucky.

We don’t all play in the same manner or buy things for the same reasons. I’m quite confident I haven’t dinted any of my instruments in the last 5 years and I play one of the collection everyday when I’m at home.

Yes, not sure why people are comparing the VERY limited edition "icon" model to the standard one. And from what I can see the fancy replica versions have all sold, so clearly some people considered it a price worth paying. The price of a standard US Stingray is right in line with inflation. The list price in 1976 was $495 (without a case), which is around $2800 today. Would I ever pay that much? No. But playing bass is not my profession and I prefer to buy used.

Still only just over £3k with shipping, VAT and import duty.

The one that Bass Direct are talking about is £5999

I didn't realise that. Every day a school day on BC. Dave

Gorgeous playing by Pino in the video, as you would expect. That touch and tone is spectacular.

How are you today @Stub Mandrel. Back home i hope. Dave

It's £3,499, where are you seeing '79 Stingrays for less than half of that?

I'm broke, but I nearly broke my finger rushing to click on the first link. But of course, it's in Japan and very much not £2.3k 😅

I suspect that most of these things don't really matter to most bass players. To me "nitro finish" just says it will wear away simply by looking at it, and if I'm buying a new bass I want it to look new - I'll add my own "mojo" simply by using it and no doubt the wear patterns I add will be completely different to Pino's. TBH I'm not in the market for this, and if I wanted one, as other have said, there are actual made in 1979 Stingrays available for less than half the price EBMM are asking

This is very grown up discourse for the internet. It'll never catch on!

I've been judged offten and found wanting.... wanting another bass guitar that is!!!

I can't actually grasp why this money-grab has irritated me so much. (Well, I can, but...) Anyhow: Musicman Stingray basses: 1979 (£2.3K) https://reverb.com/uk/item/88807689-musicman-stingray-sunburst-r-1979-sn-b013725-04-07 1978 (£3.6K): https://reverb.com/uk/item/85274423-ernie-ball-music-man-stingray-pre-ernie-ball-1978-sunburst or £3.9K https://reverb.com/uk/item/90415351-music-man-stingray-with-maple-fretboard-1978-made-in-usa Just buy old.

'The one I played on'! ONE! Think what you're saying! I'm sure you can imagine the amount of variety there is in these old cheaply made basses. Some have such a wonderful sound for roots music when strung and set up properly. Depends on when it was made, which model, what condition, strings, sound post etc etc. And if losers like me get off on the cachet of the name, what's so wrong with that? There is such a thing as cultural and historical value, and that contributes to financial value for those that choose to let it. As you say, you don't understand the fuss over Kays. Doesn't make them all great sounding basses, but no-one is saying that. Jack will tell you mine is a bit of an old dog with a horrid fat neck and a sometimes flat acoustic sound because the sound post needs adjusting, and its a bit of a pig to play on ... but I still love it, and I know how to coax a great live sound out of it. (Plus, I scored an ebay steal off a school orchestra...) Now, shall we discuss King Mortones? 😁

3dB is 'enough to hear the change' and 10dB is twice or half as loud. Translate easily to movements on the mixer sliders, and are meaningful in that context. They aren't all calibrated in dB but good ones are.

Mistletoe and Wine - Cliff Richard

A Christmas single is your best bet for residual income!

Bob promptly bought my Levy's Signature Series strap - Quick comms and a very easy transaction, which is always appreciated. +1 to the above and thanks again🙂

I always moan about modern prices. Musicman are probably my favourite brand, if not tied with Fender. Both are guilty of very high prices now. However, what I have gathered is that Musicman USA do not simply make hundreds of basses continuously now; they make smaller runs and are a little more 'built to order', so have scaled it down a little. Their guitars are also now becoming much more popular, and I think the same production applies to them. Make less, higher price. If people want the Musicman sound but without the cost and ultimately that high end feel/fit and finish, then they can get an import model. Whether we like it or not, that is how they have stayed doing what they do and this was a change during/after covid I believe.