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Quite.. it's strange to see some of the other takes on this this thread.

I would say the pitch shifter and octaver are so bad they're both unusable.

Thanks both for the clarification and the offer. Is it really that bad?

I can confirm it does cycle back to A after scrolling through the list. @Jack I can try to record a quick bit of the pitch shifter so you can see after work if that'd be useful?

I have to say I've gone digital. But one day I'll get my LP12 out of the loft and set it up again. Meanwhile we have a pic'n'mix the usual arguments: Digital is more accurate than vinyl. Vinyl has more feeling than digital. Digital has more dynamic range than vinyl. Digital sounds like sandpaper. You must be mad if you spend £2k+ on a needle. CDs are limited and you can't spread jam on them and expect them to play. Vinyl LPs warp. Anything above £250 and you can't tell the difference anyway. Some albums sound better on this and some on that. Anything above £251 and it's all a placebo anyway. My vinyl sounds no better than my digital when played over Bluetooth. It's about the music not the system. Go out and listen to some live music.

Lucinda Williams is this coming Saturday. Looking forward to seeing her again. The Six Musical was last month and it was bloody amazing. 10 girls onstage including the 4 piece band. Fantastic vocals, musicianship and choreography from all of them. It’s not a long show but it never stops. I really enjoyed it.

Provenance though! Think about the provenance! 😂

Isn't there some correlation between desire vs. price vs. ownership where people will just go, 'Oh, it definitely sounds better than the old one.' It's the same with (meandering down a muddy path) pickups and strings and tonewoods. (This is why Paul/Milehouse Studios You Tube stuff is such a delight to watch; small pots, pickups, wood etc. "It makes no difference. It's all bullshit.") I concur with @BigRedX, some stuff - like my old Sparks, Sweet, Mott The Hoople singles - needs to be played on an old Dansette. No amount of £2k tonearms are going to make those babies sound better.

I'm watching this because I want to see the owner get it back.

And fwiw Kev, I totally agree with you about not taking the piss as a starting point. Plenty of users adopt a buy and return approach with online purchases, because they have to as it's the only way to try things out absent physical stores these days. Online retailers build in the cost of such returns as part of their business model as the quid pro quo for not having the cost of physical stores and staff, whilst having the advantage of selling goods at similar margins to retailers with physical stores and staff. So whilst my (and, trust me, it was polite) request for Musicstore to consider applying a promo related discount directly as part of their current promotion might be something you would hate as a customer sales rep, I'm sure their staff are more than capable!

Too Much Pressure - The Selecter

And there's one of the advantages of sticking with just what you get with Logic. If it's doing what you need now, it will still do what you need in the future. Up until a year ago I was managing perfectly well with an early version of Logic X. When you do finally upgrade all your Logic plug-ins will still sound exactly as they did before. Even if they have been updated or depreciated as in the case of ESX24 the new version still loads all the sample sets I made 25 years ago and they still sound the same as they did back then. Unlike my Simmons SDSV plug-in which suddenly made all my carefully edited drum sounds completely different because the developer had changed how a few parameters worked and although there was a single preference setting that needed to be toggled to get them back to how they were under the previous version, it was hidden away and not at all obvious. There is a case for starting with GarageBand rather than going straight to Logic. The OP will already have it without needing to spend any money and has been said previously in this thread the multitude of features available in Logic can lead to option paralysis. I'd been making recordings for over 20 years starting with live to stereo tape and progressing through 4 and 8 tracks adding analogue and MIDI sequencing along the way until I went full in the box DAW, by which time I had built up enough recording knowledge for it not to be information overload.

If they're no longer good enough for Hooky, they're not good enough for me!

I nicked one of my daughter's hair bands, attached it to my strap (threaded it through one of the spare adjustment holes to secure it) and just hook my Lekato wireless bug over that. Have an extension cable obvs.

I play in a metal covers band and a rock covers band these days. I used to play in a black metal band back in the days, think Cradle of Filth minus the keys and the female vocals. They were fun days

I haven't had a chance to pick up the VI for a while so I haven't been able to address this yet. Any suggestions are very welcome.

Gotta love a Gus! I have a possible answer for the pits and pocks in that finish. Today's flip-paints are much better than they were. The original chameleon shifts were suitable for car bodies where we tended to see them used first: Hard, metal surfaces, but, due to the way that those pigments 'crystalise' in the same direction in order to make the flip work, it ended up being a really brittle finish. This is further compounded by luthiers wanting to keep finishes thin to hang on to those 'tonewood' properties. My 7 string has an early flip paint on it that isn't dissimilar to the one pictured and it has succumbed to the same. Its not that the bass ever got bashed hard, it's just that the finish wasn't up to the job. My 6 string has had its flip refinished, arguably done twice as many gigs and received a good few bashes on the way, shows not even a scratch.

Hi, have you fixed this? i have a lot of experience with this if you still need help.

Take a look at these threads.

Iron Out The Rough Spots - Paul Young

I have nothing to add to which is format is better, or which turntable drive system is best (other than they all have their shortcomings) and my shot hearing probably couldn’t tell anyway (no probably about it). However, I watched a video the other day about vinyl ownership. There were some statistics mentioned (they might have been complete BS of course) said that only about 50% of new vinyl purchasers actually an own a deck to play the medium on. For some, it seems, it’s about ownership of the latest cool thing, or displaying the sleeves as artwork (I can get my head around the latter, it’s what I really miss about vinyl, not displaying it, but interacting with it, whilst the album played. I gave all mine away).

Thank you for taking my response with the humour intended and for your thoughtful reply. Yeah, its a pain when upgrading systems. My current machine can no longer accept OS updates and therefore no updates to Logic. When I do finally upgrade, although my existing Logic install will work for now, it is recommended to buy the latest version to make use of all the newer functions in the curent version of Logic (and the new ones in the Creator suite announced t'other day). So, even Logic will want me to move with the times and enjoy its in-built tech in exchange for the mighty dollar. Totally up to the individual and, one thing that occured to me whilst reading your reply, is that we're both offering a route to cost effectivity. You on one hand have responded to the OP in getting the best use out of Logic's own plugins first thus saving money. As the OP had suggested they wanted to get directly in to music, I'd suggested getting to grips with Logic straight away rather than learning Garageband first. So, saving the cost of time. - and then not wasting hours doom scrolling the sites I mentioned when tech-fomo kicks in!

Absolutely yes. Love her and her music.